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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Warty:&amp;#32;/* Proposal */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Very nice logo, reminds me of somewhere. I'd stick around but I'm due to screw up another surgery. [[User:PALMD|PALMD]] 08:24, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, there is a certain familiarity. ...--[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;bing up&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 08:39, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Might I suggest the [http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Liberapedia Liberapedia] RW logo?--[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;bing up&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 10:06, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I second that choice.  Can we haz permission? [[User:Human|Human]] 16:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Kewl.  Logo too wide for the space it has to fit in.  Maybe crop off the outer brackets? [[User:Human|Human]] 19:39, 29 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Purpose ==&lt;br /&gt;
I have copied and edited some material about the purpose of this Wiki from a post at RationalWiki.--[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;bing up&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 10:18, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hosting ==&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe the kind [[goat|folk]]s at RW would offer to host this metawiki if someone buys the domain name? [[User:Human|Human]] 16:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Am I the only one ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who realises that the label is mispelt? Or is that a joke? --[[User:82.44.64.173|82.44.64.173]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I think its a joke. I think. --[[User:72.232.23.238|72.232.23.238]] 21:38, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I don't think so...--[[User:Ryan|Ryan]] 22:44, 27 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It's funny whether its intentional or not.--[[User:Bob_M|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;bing up&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:45, 28 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Personally, I see nothing that needs to be changed here. --[[User:AKjeldsen|AKjeldsen]] 09:48, 28 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== install pleez? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know who runs this thing, but can they install the &amp;quot;choose/option&amp;quot; tag things somehow? [[User:Human|Human]] 19:38, 29 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Godamn ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was gonna wandalize this, but I just noticed the good guys own it. [[User:Helios|Helios]] 01:42, 2 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Today's activities ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think we need a separate article and not just something on Susan's page.  But things seem to be still going down and it's hard to know where its going to go.  So what angle? And what name?  I wouldn't want to use &amp;quot;Susan's departure&amp;quot; in the hope she will come back.  We've already got one &amp;quot;fuck&amp;quot; article so I'm not sure about that either.  But anything written now might be out of date by this evening anyway.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:45, 14 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I, too, am at a loss what to name it. In her article I resorted to snark and called it &amp;quot;[[SusanG#Susan takes her ball and goes home|SusanG takes her ball and goes home]]&amp;quot;. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 14:07, 14 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this had died the death now, but the debate went in so many y directions that it's hard to define the damn thing in a punchy way. Any ideas Hans?--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:42, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::By the way, it went on longer than 90 mins.  It started at talk:main with Marcus Cicero's complaint about the &amp;quot;talk to a Mormon&amp;quot; according to item, which very early on had a brief pissing match between him and Susan.  My/human's &amp;quot;lecture&amp;quot; came many hours later, and I think by then she was already doing some auto-dismantling. (changing her user page to say &amp;quot;castle&amp;quot; and no more, etc.)  {{User:Human/sig}} 14:59, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well yes, the whole affair started as you say, but it was a hell of a lot longer than 90 mins before all the waves stopped.  However it's my impression that it wasn't initially started by a post of Susan's. She just supported the Mormon post and then MS decided to to start using unparliamentary language. Later you decided to issue a reproof to Susan which might perhaps have been better sent privately and things started to come apart.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 15:18, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You really have to go check the histories, FF.  The MC/Susan flap started her packing up.  Long before my reproof, she had reduced her user page to saying only &amp;quot;castle&amp;quot; and had withdrawn from discussion.  People even made jokes about the castle thing - see &amp;quot;rook&amp;quot; and o-o-o, above the reproof.  I would say we need to look at about four places - the history of her user and talk pages, the history of the Mormon post discussion, and Susan's contribs, to get a handle on the order things happened and who was &amp;quot;involved&amp;quot;. {{User:Human/sig}} 15:51, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Ok, but our sequences are similar aren't they? I have MS's action before yours, though I admit that the implication of my post is that her departure was subsequent to your post.  If this is in error then I retract it.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:43, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::How about calling it The &amp;quot;Tourette's attack episode&amp;quot;. Wonderfully snarky.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:25, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::&amp;quot;90 minutes&amp;quot; sounded punchier :-) Honestly, my impression was that it was immediately after your reproof Susan went nutcake, so I marked it as the &amp;quot;start&amp;quot;, admittedly arbitrarily. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 20:33, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Main Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I made a new main page. [[User:Ryan/Main Page]]. Hope you like --{{User:Ryan/sig}} 00:55, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:So you did. A few tweaks and I think it is ready for pasting in.  Balance the two sides, and perhaps start WIGO RW? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:02, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::While I have not always (or perhaps ever) been a fan of Ryan's, I really want to say that his work on the mainpage is absolutely fantastic. Well done Ryan, and thank you for your efforts. That said, I'm almost embarrassed to make a suggestion. What about repeating the RWW signature orange color somewhere in the mainpage?--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:10, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, ah, ah. Why does this look like a real wiki now. [[User:76.10.172.106|76.10.172.106]] 14:37, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::FF, I'll see if I can do something to that effect. {{User:Human/sig}} 14:37, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That was more orange than I intended - I only was trying to color the &amp;quot;borders&amp;quot;.  It didn't preview the way it looks now. {{User:Human/sig}} 14:52, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ah, I see, it wasn't my fault.  Btw, the &amp;quot;orange&amp;quot; in question is #F2A500. {{User:Human/sig}} 14:54, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um that was my fault. I can revert if you want. [[User:76.10.172.106|76.10.172.106]] 14:54, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's ok, I already did, and tried out what I was doing.  Do you folks think the header boxes should be orange, too? {{User:Human/sig}} 14:57, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well I liked it (drew attention to the headers and complimented to borders). But wtv. [[User:76.10.172.106|76.10.172.106]] 15:00, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::First off, I'd like to mention that this is the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;third&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; fourth edit conflict I've had this afternoon  Weird on RWW. Anyway. Yes, the idea is good, but (and I'm letting my feminine side out here) are there any &amp;quot;pastel&amp;quot; oranges we can use for the header boxes?--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 15:04, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sure, there are 64,000,000 colors ;).  So, use the logo orange for the borders and a lighter version for the  header backgrounds?  Should be easy... {{User:Human/sig}} 15:48, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I tried that out.  Opinions? {{User:Human/sig}} 15:55, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nice, (actually very nice) but is there any way to make it more edgy?--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:45, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks! Can you tell  me what you mean by &amp;quot;edgy&amp;quot;?  You  mean high-contrast colors?  Pictures of nekkid people?  Blinking text in MS comic sans? Let me know and I'll try to accomplish it. {{User:Human/sig}} 17:09, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, maybe it's a little bit ''too'' nice. We're a rather &amp;quot;in your face&amp;quot; sort of place and maybe we should have something more aggressive. Sadly, my knowledge of color combinations isn't at the same standard as my ideas.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:45, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK, I think I get what you mean.  More pepper, less salt ;)  I'll play around and see if something comes up. {{User:Human/sig}} 19:28, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
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Make me an admin! No? Ok... [[User:MarcusCicero|MarcusCicero]] 14:06, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You really need to petition [[User:Admin]] about that. Initially he promoted promoted RW sysops but more recently people who have made significant contributions to the site. Perhaps you should work at the site for a while longer before making your request to him?  On the other hand &amp;quot;Admin&amp;quot; lives in a cloud of secrecy and does not explain his decisions, so your appeal may prosper anyway.--[[User:FalseFlag]][[User_Talk:FalseFlag|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Flag Me&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:27, 15 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
On a whim, I registered another RationalWikiWiki with ScribbleWiki ([http://rationalwikiwiki.scribblewiki.com/Main_Page http://rationalwikiwiki.scribblewiki.com/Main_Page]), another free host for wikis. I know it is way too late for you all to be willing to do so, but I just wanted to put this out there: are you all willing to move to that site?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Pros:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*The latest version of MediaWiki, with all of the extensions that edithis.info ''doesn't'' have (i.e. functioning reference tags, math tags, extended user preferences, [http://rationalwikiwiki.scribblewiki.com/Special:Log logs that aren't half-assed], compatible with parser functions, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
*An owner who would actually be around on a daily basis.&lt;br /&gt;
*No Captcha.&lt;br /&gt;
*No typo in the url :-)&lt;br /&gt;
*All contributors here would retain their sysopships. And I would probably have to give Human allpowerz, out of necessity :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cons:'''&lt;br /&gt;
*Pages moved there will lose their entire history.&lt;br /&gt;
*Confusion across the site during transition.&lt;br /&gt;
*The owner would be me :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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Your thoughts? {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:39, 16 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;And I would probably have to give Human allpowerz, out of necessity&amp;quot; - you're joking,of course!&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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