User talk:Hans Johnson/TK - Revision history

Hans Johnson: signing

Hans Johnson — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:13:40 GMT

signing

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	:::::From my own experience with Wikipedia, if a rewrite is a significant improvement over the previous version, unilateral or not, fellow editors will recognize that and not war over the article. If it is not a significant enough improvement, fellow editors will also recognize that, revert it and continue editing or work around it, excising some new parts and re-adding some old parts.		:::::From my own experience with Wikipedia, if a rewrite is a significant improvement over the previous version, unilateral or not, fellow editors will recognize that and not war over the article. If it is not a significant enough improvement, fellow editors will also recognize that, revert it and continue editing or work around it, excising some new parts and re-adding some old parts.
	:::::Additionally, edit wars of that level only happen after personal politics come into play. We have barely one half dozen regular contributors and are too small a wiki to be shook up so by politics. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:56, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:::::Additionally, edit wars of that level only happen after personal politics come into play. We have barely one half dozen regular contributors and are too small a wiki to be shook up so by politics. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:56, 13 March 2008 (EST)
-	::::::So you think ...	+	::::::So you think ... {{unsigned\|82.44.64.173}}

82.44.64.173 at 22:13, 13 March 2008

82.44.64.173 — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:13:00 GMT

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	:::::From my own experience with Wikipedia, if a rewrite is a significant improvement over the previous version, unilateral or not, fellow editors will recognize that and not war over the article. If it is not a significant enough improvement, fellow editors will also recognize that, revert it and continue editing or work around it, excising some new parts and re-adding some old parts.		:::::From my own experience with Wikipedia, if a rewrite is a significant improvement over the previous version, unilateral or not, fellow editors will recognize that and not war over the article. If it is not a significant enough improvement, fellow editors will also recognize that, revert it and continue editing or work around it, excising some new parts and re-adding some old parts.
	:::::Additionally, edit wars of that level only happen after personal politics come into play. We have barely one half dozen regular contributors and are too small a wiki to be shook up so by politics. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:56, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:::::Additionally, edit wars of that level only happen after personal politics come into play. We have barely one half dozen regular contributors and are too small a wiki to be shook up so by politics. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:56, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	::::::So you think ...

Hans Johnson at 11:56, 13 March 2008

Hans Johnson — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:56:33 GMT

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	:::Not necessarily. A good article has understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:::Not necessarily. A good article has understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)
	::::But following your process a number of valid edits could be made to the existing article which would then be completely overwritten by your new version. Alternatively, various authors could conceivably start their own articles and keep overwriting the existing one.--[[User:Bob_M\|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M\|<sup>bing up</sup>]] 06:26, 13 March 2008 (EST)		::::But following your process a number of valid edits could be made to the existing article which would then be completely overwritten by your new version. Alternatively, various authors could conceivably start their own articles and keep overwriting the existing one.--[[User:Bob_M\|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M\|<sup>bing up</sup>]] 06:26, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	:::::From my own experience with Wikipedia, if a rewrite is a significant improvement over the previous version, unilateral or not, fellow editors will recognize that and not war over the article. If it is not a significant enough improvement, fellow editors will also recognize that, revert it and continue editing or work around it, excising some new parts and re-adding some old parts.
		+	:::::Additionally, edit wars of that level only happen after personal politics come into play. We have barely one half dozen regular contributors and are too small a wiki to be shook up so by politics. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 06:56, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Bob M: Looks a bit strange to me.

Bob M — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:26:32 GMT

Looks a bit strange to me.

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	::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)		::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)
	:::Not necessarily. A good article has understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:::Not necessarily. A good article has understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	::::But following your process a number of valid edits could be made to the existing article which would then be completely overwritten by your new version. Alternatively, various authors could conceivably start their own articles and keep overwriting the existing one.--[[User:Bob_M\|Bob]][[User_Talk:Bob_M\|<sup>bing up</sup>]] 06:26, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Hans Johnson at 08:45, 13 March 2008

Hans Johnson — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:45:43 GMT

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	:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)
	::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)		::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)
-	:::Not necessarily. A good article ~~maintains~~ understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)	+	:::Not necessarily. A good article has understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Hans Johnson: tempting as it is, I will not resort to the "everyone else does it" argument (e.g. "most editors have one or two pet articles they enforce their own style on")

Hans Johnson — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:45:21 GMT

tempting as it is, I will not resort to the "everyone else does it" argument (e.g. "most editors have one or two pet articles they enforce their own style on")

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	:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)
	::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)		::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	:::Not necessarily. A good article maintains understandable syntax, coherent narrative, and consistent tone throughout, which is nearly impossible to accomplish with multiple authors (who do not know each other intimately). Besides, anyone is free to mercilessly edit the rewritten article, so the true nature of a wiki remains. --{{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 03:45, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Human at 07:34, 13 March 2008

Human — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:34:26 GMT

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	why do you build these in private instead of just editing the article? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:11, 13 March 2008 (EST)		why do you build these in private instead of just editing the article? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:11, 13 March 2008 (EST)
	:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)		:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	::Yeah, but that sort of undoes what a wiki is. Edit the mainspace article as you go, and others join in. Edit in private and copy over leaves others out of the process. "Rewrites take you time"? Save small edits along the way... {{User:Human/sig}} 02:34, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Hans Johnson at 06:22, 13 March 2008

Hans Johnson — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:22:00 GMT

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	why do you build these in private instead of just editing the article? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:11, 13 March 2008 (EST)		why do you build these in private instead of just editing the article? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:11, 13 March 2008 (EST)
		+	:I always ''start'' them in mainspace, but rewrites take me a while. I run out of time and prefer to save the unfinished work in my userspace. {{User:Hans Johnson/sigsubst}} 01:22, 13 March 2008 (EST)

Human at 06:11, 13 March 2008

Human — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:11:13 GMT

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why do you build these in private instead of just editing the article? {{User:Human/sig}} 01:11, 13 March 2008 (EST)