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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
I think this is the right way to go about repealing a rule, but correct me if I am wrong while we all get used to this.<br />
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Rule 202 states:<br />
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''One turn consists of two parts in this order: (1) proposing one rule-change and having it voted on, and (2) subtracting 291 from the ordinal number of their proposal and multiply the result by the fraction of favorable votes it received, rounded to the nearest integer. (This yields a number between 0 and 10 for the first player, with the upper limit increasing by one each turn; more points are awarded for more popular proposals.)''<br />
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Right now we have a proposal to remove the ability to achieve points for a temporary amount of time and it will likely pass, which will nullify half of this rule. The other half restricts the way we introduce rules, which may be OK for playing in person but it would not work very well on the internet. <br />
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Unless anyone has any amendments or problems with this rule, feel free to vote on this proposal 24 hours after this time stamp. [[User:Sinblox|sinblox]] 18:48, 14 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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: Ok, I'm teetering on the brink on this proposal. If [[202]] is repealed, what does a turn consist of? [[201]] says that players may take a turn at any time, but there's nothing left saying what a turn is. Along with this, we probably need to amend [[201]] to read "A player may propose a rule at any time." Any thoughts? [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 19:39, 14 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
:: It's a good point. I voted for your proposal [[308]], let's get that passed before we do this. [[User:Sinblox|sinblox]] 19:36, 15 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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I would like to note that there are other active rules that has the word '''turn''' in them. This may complicate other processes. The other rules are [[203]], [[211]] and [[212]]. I have started a discussion [[Game-direction#Turns|here]] to try and organize efforts. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 23:20, 17 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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# [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 20:17, 18 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
# [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 08:57, 21 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/Talk:312Talk:3122006-05-09T23:55:27Z<p>Pugrins: /* For */</p>
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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
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This would repeal rule [[211]]. I don't think we need it yet, especially if [[306]] passes. Please discuss if you think there's a better fix than a repeal.<br />
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# [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 07:42, 22 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/Talk:311Talk:3112006-05-09T23:54:30Z<p>Pugrins: /* For */</p>
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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
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This amendment would remove the term "Turn" from rule [[203]]. It would also go ahead and switch rule change proposals to where they just need a simple majority to pass rather than unanimous support.<br />
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# [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 07:41, 22 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/Talk:310Talk:3102006-05-09T23:53:17Z<p>Pugrins: /* For */</p>
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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
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This amendment gives us the ability to allow plurality votes in the case where we have three or more options, such as if we enact a Governor General title and there are more than two contenders.<br />
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Looks good to me. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 20:19, 18 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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# [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 07:40, 22 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/Talk:309Talk:3092006-05-09T23:51:02Z<p>Pugrins: removed hypens from my signature</p>
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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
This is our first step in getting rid of the double rules that were created by accident in the beginning (Rules [[104]] and [[105]]. As per rule [[103]] immutable rules cannot be repealed but they can be turned into mutable rules with unanimous consent. Once this rule becomes mutable we can repeal it. Let's open this proposal for voting right away.<br />
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My mistake, a simple copy / paste error. Oh well. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 21:16, 16 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
:Was there a rule that got left out (either [[104]] or [[105]] that should have read something else)? Is it something we need to get added? Maybe we need an amendment rather than a repeal of [[105]] after it becomes mutable... [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 07:10, 17 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
:: The rules was supposed to read '''Any registered user may propose a rule-change and is an eligible voter.''' Rule [[302]] covers all the points that '''105''' was supposed to have. See this [http://www.editthis.info/Nomicapolis/index.php?title=Current_ruleset&diff=1651&oldid=1633 diff] for the rule as it was. The reason why it is not a rule, is that the specific text did not have its own page. And by the time that I [http://www.editthis.info/Nomicapolis/index.php?title=Talk%3A302&diff=1652&oldid=1640 realized] my boo-boo it was moot. I suggest that an eventual repeal of '''105''' would be best along with, if needed an amendment to and transmutation of [[302]]. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 10:40, 17 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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# [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 22:30, 15 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/Talk:309Talk:3092006-05-09T23:50:29Z<p>Pugrins: /* For */</p>
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== Proposer's summary and declarations ==<br />
This is our first step in getting rid of the double rules that were created by accident in the beginning (Rules [[104]] and [[105]]. As per rule [[103]] immutable rules cannot be repealed but they can be turned into mutable rules with unanimous consent. Once this rule becomes mutable we can repeal it. Let's open this proposal for voting right away.<br />
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My mistake, a simple copy / paste error. Oh well. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 21:16, 16 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
:Was there a rule that got left out (either [[104]] or [[105]] that should have read something else)? Is it something we need to get added? Maybe we need an amendment rather than a repeal of [[105]] after it becomes mutable... [[User:Applejuicefool|Applejuicefool]] 07:10, 17 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
:: The rules was supposed to read '''Any registered user may propose a rule-change and is an eligible voter.''' Rule [[302]] covers all the points that '''105''' was supposed to have. See this [http://www.editthis.info/Nomicapolis/index.php?title=Current_ruleset&diff=1651&oldid=1633 diff] for the rule as it was. The reason why it is not a rule, is that the specific text did not have its own page. And by the time that I [http://www.editthis.info/Nomicapolis/index.php?title=Talk%3A302&diff=1652&oldid=1640 realized] my boo-boo it was moot. I suggest that an eventual repeal of '''105''' would be best along with, if needed an amendment to and transmutation of [[302]]. [[User:Simulacrum|Simulacrum]] 10:40, 17 April 2006 (PDT)<br />
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__NOEDITSECTION__</div>Pugrinshttp://72.14.177.54/nomicapolis/CensusCensus2006-05-09T22:17:16Z<p>Pugrins: /* Players of the game */</p>
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