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217.141.105.203: /* Nomic Positions */

217.141.105.203 — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:31:56 GMT

Nomic Positions

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-	~~=== Governor General? ===~~	+
-	~~I haven't yet proposed this, I'd just like to get some feedback on it~~.	+
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-	''	+
-	Another idea would be the '''Metanomic General.''' This position would rotate through the players - once its power is used, the position would automatically rotate to the next player on the census. The power is this: The Metanomic General would devise a meta-rule which provides some stylish limit or outline which rule change proposals must follow in order to be considered proper. A meta-rule would last a month, at which time the next MG would implement his meta-rule. Examples might be: Rule proposals must be in verse; Rule proposals may not use the letter "e"; Rule proposals must consist of a single sentence; etc.	+
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-	~~Governor General is defined in proposal [[341]] --[[User:TomFoolery\|TomFoolery]] 15:49, 29 November 2006 (EST)~~	+
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-	:The meta-rules sounds a lot like Fantasy Rules Committee. I think it'd be fine for a "sub game", but I don't think I'd want to see it change everything globally (and poetic verse in nomic has ''so'' been done to death) [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 15:58, 4 January 2007 (EST)	+
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-	~~=== Adaption of Judge? ===~~	+
-	It seems like there are a lot of potential positions that could make this game move more efficiantly. We have adopted the Judge and Scorekeeper...shot down Supreme Grammarian and Governor General. Perhaps when we have more players this will become a more practical idea...having several positions. What if for now, we combined all of these ideas we've been having into a SuperJudge or something. I know the first concern I have (and I assume you as well) is corruption. Here is my idea. A SuperJudge (lets call them Supreme Nomicapolis Orator Of Canton's Utopia and Moderator also SuperJudge [SNOOCUMS] for now) would be an elected position voted on as of right now-once per month. SNOOCUMS would be held to the same regulations now in place for the Judge as far as removal or we could adopt something different if desired. SNOOCUMS would remain active for that month, but would not make proposals or vote (i don't know about debate???). SNOOCUMS could be rewarded for their month of work either by an increased point total (equivalent to pass/~~fail ratio OR match the largest point gain by any player over that month OR something) or perhaps if the popularity proposal goes through there could be a tie~~-~~in to that~~.	+
-	~~:CONS-centralized power(could this also be construed as a pro given your philosophy?), One person has a lot of work (responsability) for a month....~~	+
-	~~:PROS-Something new and interesting, Greater Motivation to WANT to be the SNOOCUMS (depending on rewards decided upon, etc)....~~	+
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-	~~Please let me know if you hate this or have any suggestions...~~	+
-	~~P.S. I hope its okay i move this to the top...it seemed easier than going and finding the most recent entry...--[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25~~]~~] 14:16, 3 January 2007 (EST)~~	+
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-	I like the idea of power limitations, stopping them from participating other than being an all-seeing eye and moderator of the game. I'd vote for this. --[[User:Finisterre\|Finisterre]] 14:40, 3 January 2007 (EST)	+
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-	I hate it. Since you asked. As of right now I think the game needs a Scorekeeper and Judge. The Judge is an elected position for a person that understands the actually workings of the game, where the Scorekeeper is an elected position that requires constant participation and understanding of the wiki to maintain updates. Now while that might not be the actually jobs of the positions at the minute I think those are the two that are required the most. --[[User:Dayd\|Dayd]] 18:52, 4 January 2007 (EST)	+
-	:Thanks for the honesty. My question is whether the Scorekeeper is in fact a NECESSARY position...I may be creating rules that never existed or never passed but i thought everyone had to post their current score on their page. Any concerned citizen can check on their co-citizen and call it into public light if they think something is amiss. And if someone declares themselves the winner, their score would be checked at that point, anyway... The other reason I suggested that SNOOCUMS would have quasi inactive status for the month would be so that they could devote time to upkeep items. If we do get a scoreboard setup, the most work is going to be the first edition(at least in the form i am imagining it). I would really prefer to see a "groundskeeper" responsible for updating the current ruleset, proposals page, double checking the proposals to make sure everything is properly done, etc. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 23:14, 4 January 2007 (EST)	+

	==Debate Time Ending==		==Debate Time Ending==

121.184.19.51: /* Minister of Order / Gamemaster (for lack of a better name) */

121.184.19.51 — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:32:00 GMT

Minister of Order / Gamemaster (for lack of a better name)

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	== Nomic Positions ==		== Nomic Positions ==
-	~~=== Minister of Order / Gamemaster (for lack of a better name) ===~~	+	Hull!
-	~~Should create a position for what Simulacrum does right now, even though we give~~ it ~~to him? Keeping an eye on thresholds, making sure points are more or less correct and such~~...	+	Dis site gets betta every time I visit it.
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	=== Governor General? ===		=== Governor General? ===

72.232.164.2: /* Unnumbered Proposal */

72.232.164.2 — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:47:25 GMT

Unnumbered Proposal

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	:It had been discussed somewhere in the past about having some sort of "constitutional congress" to discuss exactly how that wanted to be accomplished...I agree that such a problem should be addressed...although my understanding was that as of right now the current ruleset would remain intact with all scores being reset. All of this could be misrememberization on my part, so please put forth something you feel would fix this problem. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 23:17, 8 March 2007 (EST)		:It had been discussed somewhere in the past about having some sort of "constitutional congress" to discuss exactly how that wanted to be accomplished...I agree that such a problem should be addressed...although my understanding was that as of right now the current ruleset would remain intact with all scores being reset. All of this could be misrememberization on my part, so please put forth something you feel would fix this problem. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 23:17, 8 March 2007 (EST)

-	~~== Unnumbered Proposal ==~~	+	More or less nothing seems worth doing, but oh well.
-	~~I threw a few things onto paper (screen?) in my workspace regarding perhaps a starting off point for money~~, ~~etc~~. I don't ~~really know if I like it yet myself, but I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions. Also, I want to get rid of/combine the stages of life a citizen can~~ have~~. I think we can pare it down~~ to ~~4, maybe 5 stages instead of 7~~. Get rid of the Young Adult and Middle Aged (leaving infant, youth, adult, elderly, ancient) or something. It just seems like extra work and extra space unless someone has some idea about using them in some clever way. I thought I'd bring that concern up before I actually progress any further on mine as that might change my approach. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 21:39, 10 February 2007 (EST)	+	I just don't have anything to say now.

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	== Nomic Positions ==		== Nomic Positions ==

69.62.206.206: /* Quorum */

69.62.206.206 — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:55:40 GMT

Quorum

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	I threw a few things onto paper (screen?) in my workspace regarding perhaps a starting off point for money, etc. I don't really know if I like it yet myself, but I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions. Also, I want to get rid of/combine the stages of life a citizen can have. I think we can pare it down to 4, maybe 5 stages instead of 7. Get rid of the Young Adult and Middle Aged (leaving infant, youth, adult, elderly, ancient) or something. It just seems like extra work and extra space unless someone has some idea about using them in some clever way. I thought I'd bring that concern up before I actually progress any further on mine as that might change my approach. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 21:39, 10 February 2007 (EST)		I threw a few things onto paper (screen?) in my workspace regarding perhaps a starting off point for money, etc. I don't really know if I like it yet myself, but I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions. Also, I want to get rid of/combine the stages of life a citizen can have. I think we can pare it down to 4, maybe 5 stages instead of 7. Get rid of the Young Adult and Middle Aged (leaving infant, youth, adult, elderly, ancient) or something. It just seems like extra work and extra space unless someone has some idea about using them in some clever way. I thought I'd bring that concern up before I actually progress any further on mine as that might change my approach. --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 21:39, 10 February 2007 (EST)

-	~~== Quorum ==~~	+	I feel like a complete blank.
-	~~There are currently 4 active players and one will becoming inactive in about an hour of this posting if they do not vote or debate~~.	+	That's how it is.
-		+	I can't be bothered with anything recently.
-	~~Quorum has been changed. It is now defined under [[371]]. Summing~~ it ~~up half of the active players at the time a vote~~ is ~~called much vote to make it an offical vote~~. ~~This number has to be at least two and will be rounded up in the event of a fraction. Also anyone who votes on a proposal that doesn~~'t ~~pass the Quorum will get 20 pts per [[375]]~~. ~~--[[User:Dayd\|Dayd]] 09:33, 31 January 2007 (EST)~~	+

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	== Nomic Positions ==		== Nomic Positions ==

Chuck: nomicapolis.net is live!

Chuck — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:10:51 GMT

nomicapolis.net is live!

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	I went ahead and registered nomicapolis.net (two years, from DomainDirect), and pointed it at nomic.info. If all goes well, I should have a mirror up by tonight or tomorrow (but it'll lack user accounts, since I can't dump those). I'm going to be away this weekend and monday, so I won't be taking care of any other details then. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 20:05, 31 May 2007 (EDT)		I went ahead and registered nomicapolis.net (two years, from DomainDirect), and pointed it at nomic.info. If all goes well, I should have a mirror up by tonight or tomorrow (but it'll lack user accounts, since I can't dump those). I'm going to be away this weekend and monday, so I won't be taking care of any other details then. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 20:05, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	Nomicapolis.net is now live. All pages as of 3pm today (Jul 1) were imported, with the following caveats:
		+	* Old revisions were not kept. The game hasn't ever relied on them, so I didn't think they needed to take up space on the new site.
		+	* User pages are imported, users accounts themselves naturally are not. You'll need to register.
		+	* User discussion pages for some reason couldn't be imported, so if you want to keep your user discussion, you'll need to copy and paste it from here.
		+	* Only image page data was transferred, images themselves are not yet there (there's not many of them, so I'm just going to do it manually, unless someone beats me to it)
		+	[[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 18:10, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
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Chuck: nomicapolis.net

Chuck — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:05:08 GMT

nomicapolis.net

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	Nomicapolis is off to a pretty good start right now. It'll be a bit bumpy while we get used to the rules and the wiki format. This page is intended to be the "message board" for draft proposals and ideas for proposals. Feel free to add sections and comment on anything.		Nomicapolis is off to a pretty good start right now. It'll be a bit bumpy while we get used to the rules and the wiki format. This page is intended to be the "message board" for draft proposals and ideas for proposals. Feel free to add sections and comment on anything.
		+
		+	==Nomicapolis.net==
		+	I went ahead and registered nomicapolis.net (two years, from DomainDirect), and pointed it at nomic.info. If all goes well, I should have a mirror up by tonight or tomorrow (but it'll lack user accounts, since I can't dump those). I'm going to be away this weekend and monday, so I won't be taking care of any other details then. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 20:05, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
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	==Hosting Options==		==Hosting Options==

Chuck: /* Spam */

Chuck — Thu, 31 May 2007 14:32:31 GMT

Spam

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	:Actually the anti-spam feature on editthis consists of a set of keywords that aren't allowed in any edits, and the spam in question is an ad for something I've never heard of so it's likely it hadn't been added to the keyword list yet. Still, disallowing anon edits (which, if I'm not mistaken, we can't actually do without a Bureaucrat) is a great idea; there's no reason someone who's not a Player needs to be editing this wiki. [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] 09:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)		:Actually the anti-spam feature on editthis consists of a set of keywords that aren't allowed in any edits, and the spam in question is an ad for something I've never heard of so it's likely it hadn't been added to the keyword list yet. Still, disallowing anon edits (which, if I'm not mistaken, we can't actually do without a Bureaucrat) is a great idea; there's no reason someone who's not a Player needs to be editing this wiki. [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] 09:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	::There's also a link-flood feature that disallows posting more than a certain number of links, and it gets even logged-in users, displaying a really condescending message about how you're some evil spammer, go away. It's the reason I put "feature" in quotes, since it bit me when I tried posting a page of links to mediawiki extensions. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 10:32, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

	==SNAP==		==SNAP==

Wooble: /* Spam */ on filters

Wooble — Thu, 31 May 2007 13:00:10 GMT

Spam: on filters

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	I just reverted spam that vandalized an entire rule's text. The anti-spam "feature" was MIA (apparently a spammer can just post less links), and for non-admins, there isn't a rollback interface. I see no reason why anonymous users should be allowed to edit anything here. This really chaps my hide, and really makes me want to move sooner rather than later. I think Tucana25 is the only player we haven't heard from that's been active the last month or so, so I guess we can wait til he gets back to see if the opinion is unanimous. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 11:35, 30 May 2007 (EDT)		I just reverted spam that vandalized an entire rule's text. The anti-spam "feature" was MIA (apparently a spammer can just post less links), and for non-admins, there isn't a rollback interface. I see no reason why anonymous users should be allowed to edit anything here. This really chaps my hide, and really makes me want to move sooner rather than later. I think Tucana25 is the only player we haven't heard from that's been active the last month or so, so I guess we can wait til he gets back to see if the opinion is unanimous. [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 11:35, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
	:what is your suggestion? I'm pretty open to whatever the masses want (publically, of course...personally I'm trying to drag the masses into some kind of futuristic neo-dictatorship where I am essentially an untouchable golden god...but i digress...) --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 23:55, 30 May 2007 (EDT)		:what is your suggestion? I'm pretty open to whatever the masses want (publically, of course...personally I'm trying to drag the masses into some kind of futuristic neo-dictatorship where I am essentially an untouchable golden god...but i digress...) --[[User:Tucana25\|Tucana25]] 23:55, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	:Actually the anti-spam feature on editthis consists of a set of keywords that aren't allowed in any edits, and the spam in question is an ad for something I've never heard of so it's likely it hadn't been added to the keyword list yet. Still, disallowing anon edits (which, if I'm not mistaken, we can't actually do without a Bureaucrat) is a great idea; there's no reason someone who's not a Player needs to be editing this wiki. [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] 09:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

	==SNAP==		==SNAP==

Chuck: /* Hosting Options */ forgot sig .. doh!

Chuck — Thu, 31 May 2007 05:56:35 GMT

Hosting Options: forgot sig .. doh!

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	==Hosting Options==		==Hosting Options==
-	I've opened up the discussion at [[Hosting Options]], so comment away!	+	I've opened up the discussion at [[Hosting Options]], so comment away! [[User:Chuck\|chuck]] 01:56, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

	==Categorizing Rules==		==Categorizing Rules==

Chuck at 05:56, 31 May 2007

Chuck — Thu, 31 May 2007 05:56:05 GMT

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	Nomicapolis is off to a pretty good start right now. It'll be a bit bumpy while we get used to the rules and the wiki format. This page is intended to be the "message board" for draft proposals and ideas for proposals. Feel free to add sections and comment on anything.		Nomicapolis is off to a pretty good start right now. It'll be a bit bumpy while we get used to the rules and the wiki format. This page is intended to be the "message board" for draft proposals and ideas for proposals. Feel free to add sections and comment on anything.
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		+	==Hosting Options==
		+	I've opened up the discussion at [[Hosting Options]], so comment away!

	==Categorizing Rules==		==Categorizing Rules==