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<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 02:12, 20 April 2006</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Does anyone know if post-SHRDLU AI work has continued to parse sentences using both syntax and semantics simultaneously as Winograd describes?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>Does anyone know if post-SHRDLU AI work has continued to parse sentences using both syntax and semantics simultaneously as Winograd describes?</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&nbsp;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">&nbsp;</td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Aaron Stark</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff generator: internal 2026-06-14 05:52:53 --> </table>

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<p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>In this section, Hofstadter is (via Winograd) taking an implicit dig at generative-linguist theories that posit separate mental modules for syntax and semantics. This is all well and good, and there is evidence for both the Hofstadter/Winograd position, and for the separate module theory (I'm a bit out of the cogsci/linguistics loop, and I don't know if there have been slam dunks for one or the other position in the past five years). <br /> <br /> I'm finding it annoying, however, that Hofstadter presents Winograd's comments on SHRDLU as if they are final proof for a unified syntax/semantics in natural language (&quot;It is extremely interesting that in natural language, syntax and semantics are so deeply intertwined. ... But here, Winograd is telling us that-- at least when the usual sense of 'syntax' and 'semantics' are taken-- they merge right into each other, in natural language.&quot; (p. 631)). This is just one AI program-- albeit an apparently fairly successful one-- and there's no way that a single program can prove such a huge result about natural language in the human mind. (Also, I think that one could make still make a case for separate modules that are used simultaneously-- as Winograd describes-- in language processing).<br /> <br /> Does anyone know if post-SHRDLU AI work has continued to parse sentences using both syntax and semantics simultaneously as Winograd describes?</div>

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