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User talk:Itsuki1965

Pickles — Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:28:23 GMT

Pickles:

== A 'new' location Smutty Sex Romp ==

I didn't realize the female branch of Smutty Sex Romp didn't have a carnival location until you made one! So hey, props for bothering to do it. I added a few more Carnival pages, but I want to let you know that I lay no claims to the branches I've made. If you want to add to/change anything I've added please do.

I want to help flush out the Carnival more but I run out of ideas very quickly. It'd be awesome to get the female carnival location to around 30+ pages so I could proudly add the branch to [[The Carnival]] page, but that will never happen if it's just me writing it (I don't think I've even made 30 pages since creating my account). Would you like to work on the Carnival with me? We could bounce ideas off of each other and divvy out pages if you'd like. No pressure of course; if you're not interested certainly don't feel like you have to say yes. And I won't be too upset if you agree to work together now and end up backing out later (I mean, we're writing smut for goodness' sake).

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 20:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

:Don't worry about it for a second! I have been so busy lately that I wouldn't have been able to keep my side of the bargain anyway. I might work on it again if I find the time, but I probably wont. Maybe SSR female route will never progress past L3 in any meaningful capacity. I'll keep in mind though that you aren't too tied to it if I do decide to pick it up again.
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 17:28, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Gholy1234

Pickles — Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:44:02 GMT

Pickles: /* A friendly reminder */ new section

You cannot add a mysterious bald man to the first page of Quest of the Magician. This character isn't present in any of the other threads, so the story no longer makes any sense! --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 13:47, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

{{incomplete}}--[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 15:27, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

== A friendly reminder ==

Don't forget to add categories to any page you post! A category looks like this in the editor:

<nowiki>[[Category:Kotfatollah]]</nowiki>

where 'Kotfatollah' is the name of whatever story you're adding to. Just plop a category at the end of the page, easy peezy. I recommend checking out [[Basic page format]] for a little more information on categories. Also, it's better to maintain consistency in page formatting throughout a story. So if a story was started using bullet points for the options, try to have bullets on any page you add to it. Use asterisks (*) to make bulleted lists.

[[This is just a lame regular link without a bullet point. You already know how to make these.]]

*[[Bulleted links look like this on a page]]

<nowiki>*[[They look like this in the page editor]]</nowiki>

Happy writing! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 13:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Panic and then try to escape.

Pickles — Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:43:08 GMT

Pickles: category

You try to open the door but the door is locked and you see the key is under the bed while the bald man jumps on the bed and starts dancing while he turns and lean back and forth and is as happy as a crazy man. The bald man continues to dance while he looks angry and he has no clothes on, at all. What will you do?

*[[Begin to dance with him on the bed while his hairs on every part of his body contacts you]]

*[[Kick him strongly at the middle of his laps (Shaaaapoooq)]]

[[Category:Kotfatollah]]

Slap at his face again but double times at once

Pickles — Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:42:58 GMT

Pickles: category

The bald man face shakes in a funny way by your slaps this time and he is going to jump on your bed with his ugly hairs exposed on his body while he is wearing only his shorts. He is looking at you with a fearsome face while he is wearing a shirt and no shorts at all suddenly. What will you do then?

*[[Say good morning to him while you change your clothes to get ready for work.]]

*[[Panic and then try to escape.]]

[[Category:Kotfatollah]]

User:Pickles

Pickles — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 02:04:23 GMT

Pickles:

<P style="padding:0.2em 0.4em; margin:10px 0 10px 0; border:1px solid #a2a9b1; background:#f8f9fa; color:#000; font-size:115%; font-weight:solid; text-align:center; -moz-border-radius:0.2em;">{{{1|[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] • [[User talk:Pickles|Talk]] }}}</P><noinclude>

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==<font color="#69F">Temporary Jobs of Smutty</font>==
<font color="#669">I'm working on one of the [[Take a temporary job|Smutty temporary jobs]] that [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] suggested on the [[Talk:Take a temporary job|temporary job talk page]]. I might pick up another one later, but I'm currently on "[[Work as a pest control technician for Pestless Spirits, specializing in humane cockroach extermination]]." If you've read Arthur Saxon's "Saxon's Folly" (see asstr.org), please have a look at what I've got so far and let me know if I've desecrated his concept. I've taken some creative liberty with Pestless Spirits, but I'm not sure if I've gone too far or not far enough.
:I've kind of taken a break from this. I'll get back to it later. Probably.

==<font color="#69F"><div style="text-align: center;">Statistics</div></font>==

<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:20%; overflow:auto; float:left; background:Lavender; color:#669; margin-right:20px">
<div style="line-height:1.6; color:#69F">''Smutty Sex Romp''</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<div style="padding=.2em">
Total contributions (?): 69,495 (100%)

[[User:Platypus|Platypus]]' edits: 42,276 (60.8%)

[[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]]'s edits: 5,168 (7.4%)

[[User:Teejay|Teejay]]'s edits: 4,269 (6.1%)

<div style="background:White">

From a random sampling, I found that each page of Smutty Sex Romp has approximately '''160''' words (not counting options at the bottom, templates, or categories). That makes Smutty Sex Romp nearly '''3 million''' (2,902,720) words in length. To put that into perspective, the longest english-language novel ever published (A Dance to the Music of Time) has only 1 million words.
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<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:20%; overflow:auto; float:right; background:Lavender; color:#669; margin-left:20px; margin-right:20px">
<div style="line-height:1.6; color:#69F">''Rampage''</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<div style="padding=.2em">

Total contributions (*): 26,344 (100%)

[[User:Platypus|Platypus]]' edits: 9,079 (34.5%)

[[User:Teejay|Teejay]]'s edits: 3,301 (12.5%)

[[User:Yihman1|Yihman]]'s edits: 2,021 (7.7%)
<div style="background:White">
Rampage articles are on average longer than those from Smutty Sex Romp, and clock in at about '''270''' words per page (using the same counting method as for Smutty). Rampage is around '''1,100,000''' words in length, having a greater word count than the entire Harry Potter series (which has 1,084,170 words).

</div></div></div></div>

So I can't vouch for the accuracy of any of these numbers, but the percentages and word counts are probably very roughly correct. I've used 'contribution' and 'edit' interchangeably, neither of which necessarily indicate page creation. I'm not yet sure how to go about searching for the number of new pages each contributor is responsible for creating.

Let me know if anyone thinks of another large contributor. These are just a few names I saw often while scrolling through the xml files.

(?): I've gotten this number from ctrl-f searching the xml files. Because of the way large xml files display (in Notepad ++ at least) this is likely close to '''double''' the number of actual contributions (the reason it's odd is because the doubling doesn't happen consistently. Very small files have no doubling, where very large files do). This doubling won't affect percentages as much though, so those are probably close to accurate. Additionally, this number doesn't include contributions from IPs, though the IP contributions are negligible (probably just over 1% of all edits).

(*): I have the same issues here. I don't know why I keep seeing doubled up contributions inconsistently (Platypus, Yihman, and Teejay somehow have odd numbers of contributions despite the doubling). Again, percentages are probably more accurate than the numbers.

As I back up other stories I'll add more 'statistics.'

==<font color="#69F">Chat Thing</font>==
<font color="#669">editthischat.chatango.com/

This was [[User:Completionist|Completionist]]'s idea. An anonymous chatroom accessed through the link. It's faster than writing back and forth on talk pages I suppose, but nobody has used it (Durzan left a message before, more than a year ago, but seems like he's it). Thought I might link it here anyway.

==<font color="#69F">Credit</font>==
<font color="#669"> Any contributions I make are available under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) where applicable and unless otherwise specified (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/).

Or, y'know, just cite my username and this website if you have a mind to move anything I've written somewhere else.

==<font color="#69F">Other==

I shamelessly "borrowed" the nice border example from this page on Wikipedia -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_page_design_center/Style

[[User:Pickles/test]]

[[User:Pickles/draft]]

[[Help Jason out]]

[[That Smutty Sex Romp story site]]

[[Jump up on stage with them]]
:[[Tell Penny that's not okay either]]

[[Roll the bread into a cylinder and stuff it up your twat]]
----

<font color=black>Account created 21:47, 7 May 2020
[[Category:User Pages]]

Put something other than your hands on the brunette

Pickles — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:39:36 GMT

Pickles:

You step behind her and grind against her ass. She huffs angrily but doesn't remove her hands from the controls.

"I just told you to get your hands off of me," she says.

"My hands aren't on you." You rub your crotch against her ass and reach your hands around her to rest them on the console.

"If I lose because you're fucking with me, you won't ''get'' to fuck me."

You kiss her neck before bringing your face close to her ear. "You're a pretty shit at Pac-Man if something like this would throw your game off."

"Fuck you, you prick. I'll beat you anyway."

You'll see about that. You unzip your jeans and press your hard cock against her still jean-clad butt.

You:
*[[Remove the brunette's jeans]]
*[[Rub your cock against the brunette's ass]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Arcade]]''|Health=Horny|MP=0|Level=1}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

User talk:Fijjjiii42

Pickles — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:38:30 GMT

Pickles: Have you ever seen the meme 'Professionals have standards'?

== Have you ever seen the meme 'Professionals have standards'? ==

Your most recent page, [[Put something other than your hands on the brunette]], is missing a few things to be a ''complete'' page. Be sure to add a category to any page that you make. In the story you were editing, the category would be <nowiki>[[Category:Smutty Sex Romp]]</nowiki> , and you'd just plop it at the bottom of the page like any other link (most story categories are <nowiki>[[Category:StoryTitleHere]]</nowiki> , but you can check the bottom of any page in a story to see its category). I also recommend reading [[Basic page format]] for a few more pointers on pages.

Smutty Sex Romp's primary author, [[User:Platypus]], has somewhat high standards for his stories (Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp). This isn't true on every story you'll read on the site, but Plat especially dislikes options that aren't things the main character ('you') should actually be able to choose. The reader shouldn't be able to choose whether the girl becomes distracted, as all options should be actions the protagonist can take ('She gets distracted' is not okay, but 'You distract her' might be). Each page of Smutty Sex Romp also includes a status bar that you need to copy-paste over from the previous page, and this goes for any story with a status bar.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that you're probably better off contributing to a different (simpler) story until you learn the ropes. Feel free to come back afterwards and try your hand at Smutty Sex Romp with a bag full of [[Grammatical Tips]] and page-formatting knowledge.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 16:38, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

User:Pickles

Pickles — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 04:00:42 GMT

Pickles:

<P style="padding:0.2em 0.4em; margin:10px 0 10px 0; border:1px solid #a2a9b1; background:#f8f9fa; color:#000; font-size:115%; font-weight:solid; text-align:center; -moz-border-radius:0.2em;">{{{1|[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] • [[User talk:Pickles|Talk]] }}}</P><noinclude>

<div style="padding: 10px; background: #DEB887; border: 1px solid #FFAA99; font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; font-size: 95%;">
{| style="text-align:center; border: 1px solid #C9765A; background-color:#E9967A"
|- padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;"
! style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; color: #EEEEFF; font-size: large; line-height: 1.3em;" colspan="2"|
| style="text-align:left; padding: 8px; background-color:#FAEBD7"|

<div style="float:right;margin-left:40px">__TOC__</div>

==<font color="#69F">Temporary Jobs of Smutty</font>==
<font color="#669">I'm working on one of the [[Take a temporary job|Smutty temporary jobs]] that [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] suggested on the [[Talk:Take a temporary job|temporary job talk page]]. I might pick up another one later, but I'm currently on "[[Work as a pest control technician for Pestless Spirits, specializing in humane cockroach extermination]]." If you've read Arthur Saxon's "Saxon's Folly" (see asstr.org), please have a look at what I've got so far and let me know if I've desecrated his concept. I've taken some creative liberty with Pestless Spirits, but I'm not sure if I've gone too far or not far enough.
:I've kind of taken a break from this. I'll get back to it later. Probably.

==<font color="#69F"><div style="text-align: center;">Statistics</div></font>==

<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:20%; overflow:auto; float:left; background:Lavender; color:#669; margin-right:20px">
<div style="line-height:1.6; color:#69F">''Smutty Sex Romp''</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<div style="padding=.2em">
Total contributions (?): 69,495 (100%)

[[User:Platypus|Platypus]]' edits: 42,276 (60.8%)

[[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]]'s edits: 5,168 (7.4%)

[[User:Teejay|Teejay]]'s edits: 4,269 (6.1%)

<div style="background:White">

From a random sampling, I found that each page of Smutty Sex Romp has approximately '''160''' words (not counting options at the bottom, templates, or categories). That makes Smutty Sex Romp nearly '''3 million''' (2,902,720) words in length. To put that into perspective, the longest english-language novel ever published (A Dance to the Music of Time) has only 1 million words.
</div></div></div></div>

<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:20%; overflow:auto; float:right; background:Lavender; color:#669; margin-left:20px; margin-right:20px">
<div style="line-height:1.6; color:#69F">''Rampage''</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
<div style="padding=.2em">

Total contributions (*): 26,344 (100%)

[[User:Platypus|Platypus]]' edits: 9,079 (34.5%)

[[User:Teejay|Teejay]]'s edits: 3,301 (12.5%)

[[User:Yihman1|Yihman]]'s edits: 2,021 (7.7%)
<div style="background:White">
Rampage articles are on average longer than those from Smutty Sex Romp, and clock in at about '''270''' words per page (using the same counting method as for Smutty). Rampage is around '''1,100,000''' words in length, having a greater word count than the entire Harry Potter series (which has 1,084,170 words).

</div></div></div></div>

So I can't vouch for the accuracy of any of these numbers, but the percentages and word counts are probably very roughly correct. I've used 'contribution' and 'edit' interchangeably, neither of which necessarily indicate page creation. I'm not yet sure how to go about searching for the number of new pages each contributor is responsible for creating.

Let me know if anyone thinks of another large contributor. These are just a few names I saw often while scrolling through the xml files.

(?): I've gotten this number from ctrl-f searching the xml files. Because of the way large xml files display (in Notebook ++ at least) this is likely close to '''double''' the number of actual contributions (the reason it's odd is because the doubling doesn't happen consistently. Very small files have no doubling, where very large files do). This doubling won't affect percentages as much though, so those are probably close to accurate. Additionally, this number doesn't include contributions from IPs, though the IP contributions are negligible (probably just over 1% of all edits).

(*): I have the same issues here. I don't know why I keep seeing doubled up contributions inconsistently (Platypus, Yihman, and Teejay somehow have odd numbers of contributions despite the doubling). Again, percentages are probably more accurate than the numbers.

As I back up other stories I'll add more 'statistics.'

==<font color="#69F">Chat Thing</font>==
<font color="#669">editthischat.chatango.com/

This was [[User:Completionist|Completionist]]'s idea. An anonymous chatroom accessed through the link. It's faster than writing back and forth on talk pages I suppose, but nobody has used it (Durzan left a message before, more than a year ago, but seems like he's it). Thought I might link it here anyway.

==<font color="#69F">Credit</font>==
<font color="#669"> Any contributions I make are available under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) where applicable and unless otherwise specified (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/).

Or, y'know, just cite my username and this website if you have a mind to move anything I've written somewhere else.

==<font color="#69F">Other==

I shamelessly "borrowed" the nice border example from this page on Wikipedia -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_page_design_center/Style

[[User:Pickles/test]]

[[User:Pickles/draft]]

[[Help Jason out]]

[[That Smutty Sex Romp story site]]

[[Jump up on stage with them]]
:[[Tell Penny that's not okay either]]

[[Roll the bread into a cylinder and stuff it up your twat]]
----

<font color=black>Account created 21:47, 7 May 2020
[[Category:User Pages]]

Life of Alex

Pickles — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:10:18 GMT

Pickles: category

Alex was born to wealthy parents and grew up in a big house in a particularly fancy neighbourhood in the suburbs. The few times his parents were home when Alex was growing up, they kept to themselves, but most times they were away from the house for weeks at a time and left Alex and his older sister alone with a large amount of money to spend on taking care of themselves.

Alex's sister, Freyja, was quite a few years older than him and was forced to become his caretaker in their parent's absence. That extra responsibility at a young age made the girl grow up quickly, and it formed a tight bond between her and Alex. Her close bond with Alex gave Freyja a small escape from all the stress of raising a baby brother, by giving her a place to indulge in her more girly desires with the last person one might expect: the very brother in question.

The two often spent weekends having little sleepovers in the older sibling's room, where Alex was used as a blank canvas for Freyja to practice her makeup skills on. As well as that, Alex grew his hair out, so that she could style it. Alex didn't mind it one bit, he enjoyed spending time with his sister and actually enjoyed looking pretty. And those two statements hold true to this day, after years and years of their slumber-parties, especially after puberty graced him with a slender, feminie physique and soft facial features, making him an even prettier model for her to practice on.

In the early stages of his life, his near-estranged parents had say over what extracurricular activities Alex took part in. He hated his mathematics and foreign-language tutoring, and only tolerated his ballet classes, but the one thing he did enjoy were his music lessons. Alex started practising singing and guitar at the age of eight. He picked it up rather quickly and, after a few years, began writing his own songs.

As soon as Freyja had the funds to afford a place, she and Alex moved away from their neglectful parents to live together in a cheap apartment in the city. Alex is eighteen, now, and in his senior year of high school while Freyja works a couple jobs in order to support them both. Alex spends his free nights playing small gigs at local bars in an attempt to earn a little money for them as well.

Alex stands at about five-foot-four, and sports some deliciously milky smooth skin and very alluring curves -- especially for a boy. His hair is a stylishly unkempt mess of long, silky soft brunette waves which hang a fair few inches lower than shoulder length and frame his beautiful, effeminate face. His high cheekbones, small jaw, plush lips and thin pointed nose are all alluring, but the main attraction are his wide, stormy grey-green eyes which are complemented by a pair of thick but perfectly shaped and groomed eyebrows. His years of ballet training gives the boy a lean, athletic set of muscles but their definition is softened by a thin layer of supple, fatty padding which gives him the best of both worlds: soft, plump, and cuddly, while maintaining his alluring shape and figure, and hiding a good deal of strength. Where this combination of muscle and plushness shines best is on the boy's thighs and backside, which are simultaneously shapely and chubby.

[[Life of Alex/Go to School|Today is a school day, Alex just arrived on campus.]]

[[Life of Alex/Skip School|Today is a school day, and Alex is skipping it to explore down town instead.]]

[[Life of Alex/Friday Night|It's Friday night and Freyja is actually home for once]]

[[Category:Life of Alex]]

User talk:Katams

Pickles — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 03:10:11 GMT

Pickles: Life of Alex category

== Life of Alex category ==

Hello! I just added a category to your story, [[Life of Alex]]. Please be sure to add it to each page so that [[PAGESINCAT:Life of Alex]] will display your page count! And it keeps things organized. Your category looks like this in the editor: <nowiki>[[Category:Life of Alex]]</nowiki>.

You're already using the organized page naming system, which is always nice to see. [[User:Platypus|Platypus]] has put a few handy tips in [[Basic page format]] and even an entire [[Tutorial]] about wiki page formatting if you need any more help.

Good luck on your story!
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 03:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Ohyes

Pickles — Sun, 09 Aug 2020 23:29:27 GMT

Pickles: /* Family Movies doesn't really follow the rules */ -> I mean, you're not wrong

== Family Movies doesn't really follow the rules ==

I ''know'' Family Movies has just been sitting there, unaltered and undeleted (for 3 years!) despite its blatant violation of rule 1. But that doesn't mean it's alright for you to add new pages to it. You're still breaking the rule, if you catch my drift. I don't really know if that ''means'' anything necessarily. But for the sake of better safe than sorry, you should probably stop adding pages to Family Movies.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 12:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I see what you're saying, and to be honest, I wouldn't mind being banned. I'm not exactly proud of the stuff I write here, but if I can offer you some friendly advice, you need to either do something or don't. If someone were to decide to prosecute you for obscene material, they're not gonna care that you issued warnings against adding new content. There are already ''many'' stories on this site that feature underaged persons, sexual assault, incest, murder, and sometimes all of the above at once. And they've all gone unaltered and undeleted. So either you permit that content or you're gonna have to go through and remove it all.

--[[User:Ohyes|Ohyes]] 11:35, 9 August 2020

:I have no ill judgement for your writing, its quality or its content. Underage sex (or sexual assault, or incest, or murder) in writing does not bother me personally. I left a message under the assumption that you weren't aware of the rule against it.

:And it's not up to me whether content is 'allowed,' that's up to the only two people on this site with any authority, Platypus and RobKohr. I'm not very invested in whether or not you get banned; what I'm really afraid of is RobKohr coming back to a site full of underage sex stories and deciding to nuke it (although he's probably pretty close to nuking EditThis as a whole anyway).

:You're totally right that RobKohr has done a horrible job enforcing this rule (he's hardly even around nowadays) and somehow expects a ''single sysop'' (poor Platypus) to scrub the whole site. And you're right that if the United States Department of Justice Criminal Division (a mouthful and a half, but they're currently responsible for obscenity cases) ''wanted'' to have RobKohr arrested on the grounds of some content hosted on the site, Rob would not be able to defend himself by saying he made some 'rule' that he never felt like enforcing. Now whether they'd have a solid case against him is another thing, as contemporary case law for 'written obscenity' offences is not very well developed, but you're right on that point: RobKohr has not done near enough to enforce rule 1.

:I think its good to keep in mind though that you are also responsible for everything you post here online, arguably more so than RobKohr. Your country may be more or less lax than the United States regarding written 'obscene' material, but the more I've looked into it myself, the more I've realized how much influence conservative religion still has on legislation. You'd be surprised by all of the lewd things that you're technically not allowed to create and distribute on the internet because of (in my opinion) outdated laws. Arrests are not common (especially considering how often obscenity laws are broken), but the laws to prosecute haven't been annulled.

:I don't love these restrictions any more than you do. If you'd like to continue writing underage sex stories, and you haven't gone there already, stories.allthefallen.moe has the wiki format and (so far as I know) no limits on content. You could even move Family Movies over there if you'd like.

:Best luck, --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 23:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

Pickles — Sun, 09 Aug 2020 02:22:06 GMT

Pickles: /* Alternative home for Smutty? */

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive2]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive4]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive5]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive6]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive7]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive8]]

== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

----

Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

==...On [[Three Sisters: Remastered]]==

Hey plat, thanks for reminding me about this.

The story itself was written before the underage sex ban was put into effect, and was abandoned completely when the author went AWOL three years ago. The original author had noticed that the original had a bunch of broken links and decided to take the opportunity to start over, leading to the second version of the story. However, he never finished transferring over the pages he had already finished, and since the story was private, nobody else had added any new content.

I was not adding any new content to the story, but going through and copying and pasting the missing routes from the original into the remastered version, consolidating a few pages, that sort of thing. I was NOT adding or writing any new content. I was planning and am still planning to go through one by one and update them to fit current standards and try to remove the underage sex by upping the age as you suggested.

On the surface, there seems to be a fairly easy to superficially adjust the story so that it works as the only place where Bayley's age/school year is mentioned is in the opening page (AFAIK), which is where it says she's a 5th grader. I've been pondering how to make the changes on the title page for the characters that need to be aged up without seriously messing up continuity errors in the story like what happened in Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp, but haven't yet come up with any decent solutions. However, upon looking closer, I realized that even with doing an artificial age bump, Bayley's character would still look and act like a 5th grader in all subsequent pages. I dunno about you, but if a character is stated to be 18 in the opening pages and was acting like a 5th grader... wouldn't that make me think that it was a flimsy edit or excuse to hide underage sex? That seems like a morally gray area that the rules of the site do not address one way or another.

If it breaks the rules, then I would have to go through every single page and significantly alter the story, which wasn't my original intent (remember I am just consolidating information, and making grammar/clarification edits, not adding anything new).

Any idea's on a solution for the greater issue?

In the mean-time, I'll gladly up the ages on the MC's sisters in the original post and anywhere else in the story I can find that explicitly makes reference to their age.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 19:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Abandoned and Adopted Stories ==

Hey Plat,

Just kinda wondering, what can be done about the many stories that have been abandoned? I know I added to and reworked the status tags for stories when I was working on the Main Page revamp a few months back, but there are a lot of stories that are uncategorized according to the newer system, and there is probably more we can do.

With the {{Abandoned}} tag, my intent was that a story with the abandoned tag (and thus hasn't been worked on by the primary author) is up for being "adopted" by another more active user.

To reflect this, I recently created and added the new {{Adopted}} tag to the main page. The idea (which I pulled from CHYOA) is that if someone wishes to continue or maintain a story that has been abandoned for a while, they can attach that tag to the story and basically take up the mantle of the main author. This is to ensure that all abandoned stories have a chance of being worked on and actively maintained. Of course, if the original author returns and starts working on it again, then the adopted author should respect the original author's wishes.

My reason for doing this is that there are many private stories (or public stories that see little activity), that only had one author working on them, and then all of a sudden, the user just stops coming. Those stories just sit there, with no love.

Another thought that I had as a possibility, is that abandoned stories could be edited by anyone, regardless of its original status.

What is your thoughts on this matter?

I ask this, because I've sort of already adopted [[Three Sisters: Remastered]], and I just don't wanna step on any toes.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Contacting Other Users ==

Hey Plat,

I've been trying to contact [[User:Tapdancingfish]] (who hasn't been active in two years) but I've had little luck so far. Any leads or ideas on how to go about it? Already tried his skype, and that doesn't work; don't know his/her email address (besides, he/she has already forgotten the password once, so not sure it would be effective anyway).
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies for grammar infractions ==

Thanks for the input on the pages I submitted. I've fixed a few capitalization mistakes and a missing period. Don't know why I didn't see those earlier. I don't intend on being a heavy contributor, but I would like to expand on a few neglected branches of the Rampage and SSR stories. If I do add more pages I'll be sure to check and double-check grammar before posting.

--[[User:Levinyurius|Levinyurius]] 18:28 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Issues with External Images==

@Platypus Hey Platypus. Sorry for making your front page look ugly with my text, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something. In my story, [[Camp Skylight]], I tried to insert an image several times. I've done everything that the advanced guide said. When I want to insert an external link that should immediately display a picture on the page, I keep getting reCaptchas which I can't get away from. When I complete a reCaptcha to prove I'm human and not a spammer or a bot, it says that I've done it right. But when I want to save changes to a page with the external link on it, the process of reCaptchas keep repeating itself and thus I can't insert external links, as well as images. Am I doing something wrong, or is this an error from the site itself? --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 19:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Created a new subsection to prevent this from cluttering, blocking the quick link, or not getting spotted.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer in my discussion, Platypus. I tried something else regarding this issue, and I think that the solution lies with the site you use for uploading your image. Beforehand, I used Imgur to implement pictures in my story. That just wouldn't work, so I used an alternative, TinyPic. This time it worked! --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 21:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Life of a 13 year old]] probably needs to be dealt with... ==

While browsing through the recent changes page, I noticed that a new user, [[User:Bigboi1216]], was creating and editing pages for that story, which if I recall correctly is a story that completely revolves around underage sex. Naturally that is against the site rules. Since he is a new user who seems enthusiastic about adding to certain stories, I figured that he may not have neccesarily seen the rules on the front page and gave him a friendly heads up about the no underage sex rule, and let him know that the particular story he was working on is old and bloated and has practically been rendered off limits till it can be effectively dealt with. With that being said, It might be worth talking to him about this yourself.

As far as the story itself goes, it should probably be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it were a small story with only a few pages dealing with it, and an ambiguous title, then I'd have taken care of it myself. But there's 400 pages I'd have to go through and there's a rather blatantant title I don't have the power to change... so not sure if thats something I have the ability to reasonably deal with. I suspect this is the reason why this story hasn't been dealt with and instead given a DNE tag is because of this, and the fact that it has long been listed on the front page.

As a temporary and preliminary measure, I've removed the story off the front page, but that won't prevent others from coming and editing or adding to the story if they know how and where to look. Any ideas? Or should we just let sleeping dogs lie (not necessarily the best choice given how a new user just started adding to a DNE story that currently violates website rules).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== How did you apply for staff? ==

I'm wondering how to apply for a position in CYOS staff.

Not really sure if you are the person to ask about this, or even if this is how its supposed to be done on here, but you are the only active one still regularly on here, and I have to start somewhere. Plus, I figured you could use some help... so letting you know I'm up for the responsibility wouldn't hurt. Not seeing anyone else applying, so I'd figure I would at least give a tentative offer.

I do have experience as both a forum moderator and as a chat moderator on Crunchyroll, plus there's the whole rework of the front page that I did earlier in the year.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Update on applying for staff as well as getting you some deputies: I managed to find RobKohr's talk page on the main site. He seems like he was at least somewhat active over there within the past month or so, as he responded to a relatively recent comment over there.

I went ahead and posted a request that he consider adding new admins for CYOS to help you out, and then offered to serve in a staff position if he found me trustworthy. Also put in a few good words for you and Bunni.

With any luck, Rob will see the message and respond. Even if Rob doesn't see fit to promote me, hopefully he will promote a few other trustworthy people to help you out who are just as active as I am, if not more.

P.S. Would you be willing to vouch for me?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== [[Family Ties]] is another story that revolves around underage sex... and has lots of pages ==

Read through a few of the 400 some-odd pages of this story clearly revealed that this story hinges upon underage sex. In one route that I followed, I found that the 9-year-old daughter actively seeks to seduce the dad (Who's the POV character for the route). Later on in that same branch, you find out that the 16 year old first born tried to seduce the dad also when she was younger... and turned to sexually "playing" with the 9-year-old when her advances were rebuffed.

Its a damn shame that this story breaks the wiki rules, because the story itself seems well written and organized. I can tell that the author put a lot of thought and effort into this story, and as an author, I wince at the thought of seeing all that effort go to waste. But, rules are rules, so something needs to be done about it.

Since this is the second big story I've come across that revolves around underage sex, it might be a good idea for us to keep a list of these stories. They are too big for us to manually change to follow the rules, and even if we did so, the entire premise of these stories would have to be rewritten anyway. Probably would be best to make a running list of these types of stories and/or create a new category/index to dump them in while we figure out how to deal with them. If/when a story and its pages gets completely deleted or edited, we can take the story off said list.

Of course, if there's a mass deletion option, that easily solves the problem of cleaning up irredeemable stories, but my best guess is that should only be used as a last resort.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 05:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== Banned story index ==

A banned story index wouldn't be a bad idea, though it would have to be restricted if we wish to avoid people flocking to it or deliberately creating stories in said index.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Main Page Edits, Disclaimer & Protections ==

Hey Plat, I actually kinda liked the edits that [[User:Tarash‎]] made, though he probably should've asked first before editing it. I do think the changes that the version without the columns in the disclaimer honestly looks the best and that the main page should have the website introduction from that older version reapplied. Heck, I'd have done it myself earlier if it occurred to me AND if I figured out how to do it without making it look horrible.

I do agree with [[User:CheapKit]]'s admonition and blocking for essentially reverting your revert (At least that's what it looks like under recent changes) and including disclaimers. If any disclaimers are added, it needs to be carefully thought out by the admins.

As far as protections on the Main Page goes, I do agree with protecting it, as since it is often the first thing people see when they come to the site, it will be the first target for vandals and trolls. However, the protection does present a problem, as it hinders my abilities to edit out mistakes, make some minor tweaking, and generally see what works and doesn't work. Perhaps only allowing trusted users to edit the main page would be a good compromise? Or if there isn't an easy way to set that up (without help from RobKohr), then maybe we could make a [[Template:MainPage]] for it so that we can edit the Main Page behind the scenes, yet still have it be protected on the main page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

== Have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? ==

Hey Plat,

Just out of curiosity, have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? Just a thought that I had. You'd also be able to keep the story as wholesome or as sick and twisted as you'd like.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== Possible spam? ==
Hi Platypus,

I've got a strange message asking me to help contribute to an article. Nothing strange about the message itself, but rather what I found afterwards. I've looked at the article and it seems to be a biographical article about a person, rather than a story. Except, I've just googled the person. I found countless articles on many other Wiki sites about this person, all with contradicting and oftentimes provably false information on them. It's very odd, and I don't know why anyone would do this, but I thought you should know.

The article in question is [[Mother Nature]], and the user is [[User:MotherN8ture]]. --[[User:Incubus|Incubus]] 16:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Incubus]] No, I am writing my page because I am an author. I write stories and novels. My novels will be written as articles here soon. --[[User:MotherN8ture|MotherN8ture]] 17:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

== Site downage and what to do about it ==

Hey Plat,

Any idea what caused the recent 2-day downing of the website?

I know we can't really do much to prevent it here, as we don't run the site as a whole, but... maybe we could find another provider? I'm kinda tired of the lack of maintenance and active support we are receiving from RobKohr, and thinking its probably time to figure out how to go about either creating a new independent wiki or figuring out how to archive and transfer the stuff from here to a different farm with newer features and less jankiness. And on the plus side, starting from scratch would allow you and I would to come up with the rules.

Keep in mind, this is just me spitballing here; I'm not exactly sure how much effort it would be or how much it'd cost. But something needs to be done, and RobKohr probably isn't around to do it.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Would a host transfer be possible without RobKohr's help? Do you have access to the CYOS archives? Could you conceivably download it?

I think I found a wikifarm that's free, more up to date, and most importantly, might be willing to host a site such as this. Its hard to say for sure though.

miraheze.org

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

== Renaming pages? ==
Hello, I was wondering how I would go about renaming or moving a page?
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 11:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh in the story Hot and Horny by a year and renaming the pages accordingly.
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 10:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks and Apologies ==
Hello! This isn't really a complaint or flag, so I wasn't even sure if I should say something, but I wanted to thank you for making some edits to pages I've posted. I'm still somewhat new to the site, but I'm happy to make the adjustments, and I'm sorry to make you go through that work!

I'll be careful not to make errors like that again. (If this isn't really the place for a message like this, feel free to take it down! Just maybe let me know so I know not to do it again.)
--[[User:Knliqur|Knliqur]] 9:34 PM, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

== Site Downage -- Part 2 ==

Hey Plat,

Just got a message from Friedman (the site owner of CHYOA). He has heard how the site has been having bandwith and hosting problems for a while now, and suspects that sooner or later editthis.info will go offline for good. As such, he wanted me to introduce you to him so that the two of you could talk it over and figure out how he could help with these issues. His first thought was to offer to host the site himself if you are up for it. I did tell him that you don't have access to the server archives and that RobKohr is notoriously hard to contact, but hey... you got an offer!

I'd talk to him on CHYOA if I were you (Didn't you once create an account there to point out that someone tried to plagiarize your work?), maybe the two of you can figure something out. If nothing else, transferring some of the stories over to CHYOA would definitely be on the table (though it'd be long and tedious).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I sent a message to your old CHYOA account. If you can't find your login password, but can remember the email linked for it, it shouldn't be hard to reset your password. If you end up unable to do so, I can always speak with Friedman about it, as he and I talk fairly regularly on moderation (I got recruited as a mod back in November).

Since you have been thinking about transferring, did you have any luck getting access to the archives?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:Not to stick my nose too far in here, but did you ever end up contacting Friedman, Platypus? I'm wondering whether a move is imminent or if the topic has been dropped again. I was wanting to start organizing and scrubbing other works we might like to move, but what that organization and scrubbing looks like could be very different depending on Friedman's terms. I left a couple messages with Durzan too (some more than a month ago) but it seems like he hasn't been active here lately.

:I can see why you haven't decided to pick up and move yourself, though. Looking through potential WikiFarms, I haven't yet found one as laissez-faire as editthis.info.

:--[[User talk:Pickles|Pickles]] 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ya happy now you little fucking weasel? ==

There,

I CatEgorIzEd my pages,
Which I was GOING to do, after i'd finished what I was writing currently,
have you no patience?
For fucks sake,

Why're you so critical on people categorizing their pages so instantly?
Chill the fuck out dude.

Also stop editing my talk page with your pathetic sPecIaL little messages,
let me write smut in piece damn you!

Sincerely: Some one who you DON'T fuck with.

Or you will regret it.

== Alternative home for Smutty? ==

Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

-

I looked a little further into that Miraheze wikifarm Durzan recommended; seems like they might actually allow a site like this. The most similar (to CYOS) existing site I found was Star Wars Erotica Wiki (swew.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) (EDIT: and it's not so similar as I thought; it links to a separate CYOA style star wars erotica wiki, and I confused the two, but it's still a decent example of a markedly adult site hosted on the Miraheze platform). And a few years ago someone made a request for a Yiff wiki that was approved, so I can't see them turning down a CYOS style site (you can see the discussion about the Yiff wiki here-> meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_2#Not_Safe_for_Work_Content_Policy.3F).

Main NSFW content rules seem to be that

1. Everything has to be legal in Netherlands, U.S., and U.K., (so rule 1 still stands, since underage sex stories are a legally grey area at best) and

2. No pornographic images of real people (drawings and 3D renders seem to be fine)

It's possible I've missed something else important in the Content Policy, so you might want to have a look at it for yourself (meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy). Additionally, Miraheze is free and ad-free.

Regarding the transfer of stories, the 'import' function would almost definitely be available to Bureaucrats (MediaWiki permission defaults even let Admins use it). So moving Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage would be very possible, if time consuming (as only small xml files can be imported using 'import,' around 100 pages in size). I'll make another set of Smutty Sex Romp xml files suitable for transferring this way soon. I'd be happy to help you import them if you'd like.

I know you said you weren't considering relocating right now, but maybe some of this will be useful in the future. Seems like RobKohr has no plan to fix the issues any time soon (editthis.info/wiki/User_talk:RobKohr#Not_dead).

If you don't mind my asking, why are you so hesitant to relocate?

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 17:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

:Oh, that makes sense. You were working on it quite a bit earlier this year though. I figured you'd stopped because of how ungodly slow the website has become, and I hadn't considered that you might have lost interest.

:So far as my understanding goes, you'd still have plenty of ability to keep litter out on the other farm. If you create a new wiki on Miraheze, you'll have the Bureaucrat user rights. And it would be ''your'' wiki: you could write up the rules any way you wanted to, with even more power to enforce them. If you were to switch over, you would not have to worry about any loss of content moderating authority.

:And trying it out has almost no risk. It's possible that they won't allow smut on their servers, and the worst case where they decide not to host the wiki, nothing really changes. We're just stuck on editthis, with one more possibilty ticked off the list.

:Of course there is no real urgency as far as moving is concerned, but it would be great to read and edit Smutty (and any other stories that would be moved over) on a website that works. I'll stop buzzing in your ear about it, but please give Miraheze some consideration and let me know if you change your mind.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 02:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

== Am I doing this right? ==

I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.

I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

:Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?

:I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated.

:Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.

:In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval.
P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?

== Found an ad ==

[[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Smutty Sex Romp XML ==

I made an XML dump of every page in Smutty Sex Romp, if you'd want it. You might've already dumped it all yourself, but here's my attempt:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/11_utRYXuREM2XQ6wkN-J7MsXud7ZIZUx?usp=sharing

I was having trouble with the dump generator ("XML crawler") that Durzan couldn't get working, so I have been trying to dump the site with the [[Special:Export|Export]] tool. Not much success so far, since the pedo ban has wrecked the [[Special:AllPages|AllPages]] catalogue. Might just have to move everything one story at at time when the time comes.

And I have no clue how XML dumps are usually organized, so this one is alphabetical. Ideally, an updated version should be made at moving time (unless that time is very soon, which is doubtful). This one is more a proof of concept.

Anywho, hope it helps! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

:I made one for Rampage today, which was significantly easier. Again, I'm sorry if this is redundant and you've already made recent dumps, but here's today's:

:drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cluXE4NwpDXxjlYdvMRVOY74i64bgCEH?usp=sharing

:I noticed though that the page numbers aren't consistent. At all. I remember seeing a significantly higher page count yesterday than I'm seeing today, and I was able to dump more pages from the category than listed (front page says 4,232 articles in Rampage, but I pulled around 4,900 [I refreshed it, and now 4,231, but there's nothing about it on the recent changes page]). Weird bug I guess. Lots of those around here.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 19:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(cross posted from Pickles discussion) Just going to note that I have grabbed the XML, and confirmed that they DO load into a fresh wiki. There are some things that need cleanup, (some of the category: pages) but otherwise, it works. I DID have to make some changes to the settings. Specifically ini_set('memory_limit', '2048M'); and set_time_limit(6000); were required to let the largest pages load. --[[User:deefdragon|deefdragon]] 23:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

== Need a few pages renamed ==

I was doing a little up-aging in Smutty Sex Romp, and a few titles need changing. It's all 'preteen' stuff, so just changing that word to 'teen' instead should suffice. Though I wonder about the use of 'come' as a noun (in the first item on the list). I always thought of 'cum' as semen, and 'come' as orgasm or ejaculation. Anyway, I'll make sure everything links together after you've changed the names. And no rush by the way; you might want to wait until the site loads a little faster before renaming the articles.
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
#[[Go over to the come-covered preteen]]
#[[Go over to the preteen and the pony]]
#[[I want to pin your daughter down and make you watch me pound her preteen body until she's crying]]
#[[Hose_the_preteen_with_sperm]]
#[[Let_the_preteen_lead_you_to_safety]]
#[[Swim_back_to_shore_to_find_the_preteen]]
</div>

You've done a really great job scrubbing underage content so far. Seems like most of the stuff I found by searching the XML had already been corrected by you. It's a shame that we have to censor so much though. Hopefully in the future lawmakers will draw a line between fiction and action so we won't have to worry about the legal consequences of something as silly as a number on a screen.

Thank you! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 20:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main Pages Stories ==

Hello there!

I moved my story - The Interstellar Desire - to the Up and Coming section as you said. It will obviously take a long time to finish, but at what point or number of pages is it allowed to go on the main page? It would really help clarify.

It would be much appreciated! --[[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 12:06, 29th July 2020 (UTC)

== I swear that wasn't a power move or anything ==

I had [[User:Nakedboy]]'s (incomplete and user) pages open at the same time you did! I just took so long writing them that you beat me to the chase. It didn't warn me about a page conflict when I posted a comment on his page, so I had no clue you'd already handled it until I went to save the incomplete page. I didn't even know there was a warning for edit conflicts (probably isn't utilized much lately).

You're really on the ball today Platypus! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
:It's hard to imagine a CYOS so busy that people were tripping over each other trying to edit the same pages. It was a good problem to have looking back, yeah? Although I'm sure a dispute between you and Yihman about something like that probably wouldn't have gone well.
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

== Young woman vs. girl ==

I was correcting excess spacing on the page [[Follow the pigtailed teen to the bathroom]] and noticed that all references to "girl" have been changed to "young woman". I understand that all content involving minors had to be removed from the site, which is why all the preteen references were changed to teen, but is it also necessary to remove "girl"? "Girl" is often used in reference to legal female adults and as long as the character is established as a legal adult, it shouldn't be rule-breaking to call her a "girl". IMO, "girl" flows better and seems more suited to the story - "young woman" sounds too formal - but I'll change it back to "young woman" and won't alter anything else if absolutely necessary. [[User:AgentVincent|AgentVincent]] 19:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

Pickles — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 17:46:56 GMT

Pickles: /* Alternative home for Smutty? */ Edit: small edit in the message I just left

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
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*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
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== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

----

Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

==...On [[Three Sisters: Remastered]]==

Hey plat, thanks for reminding me about this.

The story itself was written before the underage sex ban was put into effect, and was abandoned completely when the author went AWOL three years ago. The original author had noticed that the original had a bunch of broken links and decided to take the opportunity to start over, leading to the second version of the story. However, he never finished transferring over the pages he had already finished, and since the story was private, nobody else had added any new content.

I was not adding any new content to the story, but going through and copying and pasting the missing routes from the original into the remastered version, consolidating a few pages, that sort of thing. I was NOT adding or writing any new content. I was planning and am still planning to go through one by one and update them to fit current standards and try to remove the underage sex by upping the age as you suggested.

On the surface, there seems to be a fairly easy to superficially adjust the story so that it works as the only place where Bayley's age/school year is mentioned is in the opening page (AFAIK), which is where it says she's a 5th grader. I've been pondering how to make the changes on the title page for the characters that need to be aged up without seriously messing up continuity errors in the story like what happened in Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp, but haven't yet come up with any decent solutions. However, upon looking closer, I realized that even with doing an artificial age bump, Bayley's character would still look and act like a 5th grader in all subsequent pages. I dunno about you, but if a character is stated to be 18 in the opening pages and was acting like a 5th grader... wouldn't that make me think that it was a flimsy edit or excuse to hide underage sex? That seems like a morally gray area that the rules of the site do not address one way or another.

If it breaks the rules, then I would have to go through every single page and significantly alter the story, which wasn't my original intent (remember I am just consolidating information, and making grammar/clarification edits, not adding anything new).

Any idea's on a solution for the greater issue?

In the mean-time, I'll gladly up the ages on the MC's sisters in the original post and anywhere else in the story I can find that explicitly makes reference to their age.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 19:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Abandoned and Adopted Stories ==

Hey Plat,

Just kinda wondering, what can be done about the many stories that have been abandoned? I know I added to and reworked the status tags for stories when I was working on the Main Page revamp a few months back, but there are a lot of stories that are uncategorized according to the newer system, and there is probably more we can do.

With the {{Abandoned}} tag, my intent was that a story with the abandoned tag (and thus hasn't been worked on by the primary author) is up for being "adopted" by another more active user.

To reflect this, I recently created and added the new {{Adopted}} tag to the main page. The idea (which I pulled from CHYOA) is that if someone wishes to continue or maintain a story that has been abandoned for a while, they can attach that tag to the story and basically take up the mantle of the main author. This is to ensure that all abandoned stories have a chance of being worked on and actively maintained. Of course, if the original author returns and starts working on it again, then the adopted author should respect the original author's wishes.

My reason for doing this is that there are many private stories (or public stories that see little activity), that only had one author working on them, and then all of a sudden, the user just stops coming. Those stories just sit there, with no love.

Another thought that I had as a possibility, is that abandoned stories could be edited by anyone, regardless of its original status.

What is your thoughts on this matter?

I ask this, because I've sort of already adopted [[Three Sisters: Remastered]], and I just don't wanna step on any toes.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Contacting Other Users ==

Hey Plat,

I've been trying to contact [[User:Tapdancingfish]] (who hasn't been active in two years) but I've had little luck so far. Any leads or ideas on how to go about it? Already tried his skype, and that doesn't work; don't know his/her email address (besides, he/she has already forgotten the password once, so not sure it would be effective anyway).
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies for grammar infractions ==

Thanks for the input on the pages I submitted. I've fixed a few capitalization mistakes and a missing period. Don't know why I didn't see those earlier. I don't intend on being a heavy contributor, but I would like to expand on a few neglected branches of the Rampage and SSR stories. If I do add more pages I'll be sure to check and double-check grammar before posting.

--[[User:Levinyurius|Levinyurius]] 18:28 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Issues with External Images==

@Platypus Hey Platypus. Sorry for making your front page look ugly with my text, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something. In my story, [[Camp Skylight]], I tried to insert an image several times. I've done everything that the advanced guide said. When I want to insert an external link that should immediately display a picture on the page, I keep getting reCaptchas which I can't get away from. When I complete a reCaptcha to prove I'm human and not a spammer or a bot, it says that I've done it right. But when I want to save changes to a page with the external link on it, the process of reCaptchas keep repeating itself and thus I can't insert external links, as well as images. Am I doing something wrong, or is this an error from the site itself? --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 19:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Created a new subsection to prevent this from cluttering, blocking the quick link, or not getting spotted.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer in my discussion, Platypus. I tried something else regarding this issue, and I think that the solution lies with the site you use for uploading your image. Beforehand, I used Imgur to implement pictures in my story. That just wouldn't work, so I used an alternative, TinyPic. This time it worked! --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 21:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Life of a 13 year old]] probably needs to be dealt with... ==

While browsing through the recent changes page, I noticed that a new user, [[User:Bigboi1216]], was creating and editing pages for that story, which if I recall correctly is a story that completely revolves around underage sex. Naturally that is against the site rules. Since he is a new user who seems enthusiastic about adding to certain stories, I figured that he may not have neccesarily seen the rules on the front page and gave him a friendly heads up about the no underage sex rule, and let him know that the particular story he was working on is old and bloated and has practically been rendered off limits till it can be effectively dealt with. With that being said, It might be worth talking to him about this yourself.

As far as the story itself goes, it should probably be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it were a small story with only a few pages dealing with it, and an ambiguous title, then I'd have taken care of it myself. But there's 400 pages I'd have to go through and there's a rather blatantant title I don't have the power to change... so not sure if thats something I have the ability to reasonably deal with. I suspect this is the reason why this story hasn't been dealt with and instead given a DNE tag is because of this, and the fact that it has long been listed on the front page.

As a temporary and preliminary measure, I've removed the story off the front page, but that won't prevent others from coming and editing or adding to the story if they know how and where to look. Any ideas? Or should we just let sleeping dogs lie (not necessarily the best choice given how a new user just started adding to a DNE story that currently violates website rules).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== How did you apply for staff? ==

I'm wondering how to apply for a position in CYOS staff.

Not really sure if you are the person to ask about this, or even if this is how its supposed to be done on here, but you are the only active one still regularly on here, and I have to start somewhere. Plus, I figured you could use some help... so letting you know I'm up for the responsibility wouldn't hurt. Not seeing anyone else applying, so I'd figure I would at least give a tentative offer.

I do have experience as both a forum moderator and as a chat moderator on Crunchyroll, plus there's the whole rework of the front page that I did earlier in the year.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Update on applying for staff as well as getting you some deputies: I managed to find RobKohr's talk page on the main site. He seems like he was at least somewhat active over there within the past month or so, as he responded to a relatively recent comment over there.

I went ahead and posted a request that he consider adding new admins for CYOS to help you out, and then offered to serve in a staff position if he found me trustworthy. Also put in a few good words for you and Bunni.

With any luck, Rob will see the message and respond. Even if Rob doesn't see fit to promote me, hopefully he will promote a few other trustworthy people to help you out who are just as active as I am, if not more.

P.S. Would you be willing to vouch for me?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== [[Family Ties]] is another story that revolves around underage sex... and has lots of pages ==

Read through a few of the 400 some-odd pages of this story clearly revealed that this story hinges upon underage sex. In one route that I followed, I found that the 9-year-old daughter actively seeks to seduce the dad (Who's the POV character for the route). Later on in that same branch, you find out that the 16 year old first born tried to seduce the dad also when she was younger... and turned to sexually "playing" with the 9-year-old when her advances were rebuffed.

Its a damn shame that this story breaks the wiki rules, because the story itself seems well written and organized. I can tell that the author put a lot of thought and effort into this story, and as an author, I wince at the thought of seeing all that effort go to waste. But, rules are rules, so something needs to be done about it.

Since this is the second big story I've come across that revolves around underage sex, it might be a good idea for us to keep a list of these stories. They are too big for us to manually change to follow the rules, and even if we did so, the entire premise of these stories would have to be rewritten anyway. Probably would be best to make a running list of these types of stories and/or create a new category/index to dump them in while we figure out how to deal with them. If/when a story and its pages gets completely deleted or edited, we can take the story off said list.

Of course, if there's a mass deletion option, that easily solves the problem of cleaning up irredeemable stories, but my best guess is that should only be used as a last resort.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 05:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== Banned story index ==

A banned story index wouldn't be a bad idea, though it would have to be restricted if we wish to avoid people flocking to it or deliberately creating stories in said index.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Main Page Edits, Disclaimer & Protections ==

Hey Plat, I actually kinda liked the edits that [[User:Tarash‎]] made, though he probably should've asked first before editing it. I do think the changes that the version without the columns in the disclaimer honestly looks the best and that the main page should have the website introduction from that older version reapplied. Heck, I'd have done it myself earlier if it occurred to me AND if I figured out how to do it without making it look horrible.

I do agree with [[User:CheapKit]]'s admonition and blocking for essentially reverting your revert (At least that's what it looks like under recent changes) and including disclaimers. If any disclaimers are added, it needs to be carefully thought out by the admins.

As far as protections on the Main Page goes, I do agree with protecting it, as since it is often the first thing people see when they come to the site, it will be the first target for vandals and trolls. However, the protection does present a problem, as it hinders my abilities to edit out mistakes, make some minor tweaking, and generally see what works and doesn't work. Perhaps only allowing trusted users to edit the main page would be a good compromise? Or if there isn't an easy way to set that up (without help from RobKohr), then maybe we could make a [[Template:MainPage]] for it so that we can edit the Main Page behind the scenes, yet still have it be protected on the main page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

== Have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? ==

Hey Plat,

Just out of curiosity, have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? Just a thought that I had. You'd also be able to keep the story as wholesome or as sick and twisted as you'd like.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== Possible spam? ==
Hi Platypus,

I've got a strange message asking me to help contribute to an article. Nothing strange about the message itself, but rather what I found afterwards. I've looked at the article and it seems to be a biographical article about a person, rather than a story. Except, I've just googled the person. I found countless articles on many other Wiki sites about this person, all with contradicting and oftentimes provably false information on them. It's very odd, and I don't know why anyone would do this, but I thought you should know.

The article in question is [[Mother Nature]], and the user is [[User:MotherN8ture]]. --[[User:Incubus|Incubus]] 16:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Incubus]] No, I am writing my page because I am an author. I write stories and novels. My novels will be written as articles here soon. --[[User:MotherN8ture|MotherN8ture]] 17:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

== Site downage and what to do about it ==

Hey Plat,

Any idea what caused the recent 2-day downing of the website?

I know we can't really do much to prevent it here, as we don't run the site as a whole, but... maybe we could find another provider? I'm kinda tired of the lack of maintenance and active support we are receiving from RobKohr, and thinking its probably time to figure out how to go about either creating a new independent wiki or figuring out how to archive and transfer the stuff from here to a different farm with newer features and less jankiness. And on the plus side, starting from scratch would allow you and I would to come up with the rules.

Keep in mind, this is just me spitballing here; I'm not exactly sure how much effort it would be or how much it'd cost. But something needs to be done, and RobKohr probably isn't around to do it.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Would a host transfer be possible without RobKohr's help? Do you have access to the CYOS archives? Could you conceivably download it?

I think I found a wikifarm that's free, more up to date, and most importantly, might be willing to host a site such as this. Its hard to say for sure though.

miraheze.org

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

== Renaming pages? ==
Hello, I was wondering how I would go about renaming or moving a page?
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 11:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh in the story Hot and Horny by a year and renaming the pages accordingly.
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 10:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks and Apologies ==
Hello! This isn't really a complaint or flag, so I wasn't even sure if I should say something, but I wanted to thank you for making some edits to pages I've posted. I'm still somewhat new to the site, but I'm happy to make the adjustments, and I'm sorry to make you go through that work!

I'll be careful not to make errors like that again. (If this isn't really the place for a message like this, feel free to take it down! Just maybe let me know so I know not to do it again.)
--[[User:Knliqur|Knliqur]] 9:34 PM, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

== Site Downage -- Part 2 ==

Hey Plat,

Just got a message from Friedman (the site owner of CHYOA). He has heard how the site has been having bandwith and hosting problems for a while now, and suspects that sooner or later editthis.info will go offline for good. As such, he wanted me to introduce you to him so that the two of you could talk it over and figure out how he could help with these issues. His first thought was to offer to host the site himself if you are up for it. I did tell him that you don't have access to the server archives and that RobKohr is notoriously hard to contact, but hey... you got an offer!

I'd talk to him on CHYOA if I were you (Didn't you once create an account there to point out that someone tried to plagiarize your work?), maybe the two of you can figure something out. If nothing else, transferring some of the stories over to CHYOA would definitely be on the table (though it'd be long and tedious).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I sent a message to your old CHYOA account. If you can't find your login password, but can remember the email linked for it, it shouldn't be hard to reset your password. If you end up unable to do so, I can always speak with Friedman about it, as he and I talk fairly regularly on moderation (I got recruited as a mod back in November).

Since you have been thinking about transferring, did you have any luck getting access to the archives?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:Not to stick my nose too far in here, but did you ever end up contacting Friedman, Platypus? I'm wondering whether a move is imminent or if the topic has been dropped again. I was wanting to start organizing and scrubbing other works we might like to move, but what that organization and scrubbing looks like could be very different depending on Friedman's terms. I left a couple messages with Durzan too (some more than a month ago) but it seems like he hasn't been active here lately.

:I can see why you haven't decided to pick up and move yourself, though. Looking through potential WikiFarms, I haven't yet found one as laissez-faire as editthis.info.

:--[[User talk:Pickles|Pickles]] 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ya happy now you little fucking weasel? ==

There,

I CatEgorIzEd my pages,
Which I was GOING to do, after i'd finished what I was writing currently,
have you no patience?
For fucks sake,

Why're you so critical on people categorizing their pages so instantly?
Chill the fuck out dude.

Also stop editing my talk page with your pathetic sPecIaL little messages,
let me write smut in piece damn you!

Sincerely: Some one who you DON'T fuck with.

Or you will regret it.

== Alternative home for Smutty? ==

Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

-

I looked a little further into that Miraheze wikifarm Durzan recommended; seems like they might actually allow a site like this. The most similar (to CYOS) existing site I found was Star Wars Erotica Wiki (swew.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) (EDIT: and it's not so similar as I thought; it links to a separate CYOA style star wars erotica wiki, and I confused the two, but it's still a decent example of a markedly adult site hosted on the Miraheze platform). And a few years ago someone made a request for a Yiff wiki that was approved, so I can't see them turning down a CYOS style site (you can see the discussion about the Yiff wiki here-> meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_2#Not_Safe_for_Work_Content_Policy.3F).

Main NSFW content rules seem to be that

1. Everything has to be legal in Netherlands, U.S., and U.K., (so rule 1 still stands, since underage sex stories are a legally grey area at best) and

2. No pornographic images of real people (drawings and 3D renders seem to be fine)

It's possible I've missed something else important in the Content Policy, so you might want to have a look at it for yourself (meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy). Additionally, Miraheze is free and ad-free.

Regarding the transfer of stories, the 'import' function would almost definitely be available to Bureaucrats (MediaWiki permission defaults even let Admins use it). So moving Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage would be very possible, if time consuming (as only small xml files can be imported using 'import,' around 100 pages in size). I'll make another set of Smutty Sex Romp xml files suitable for transferring this way soon. I'd be happy to help you import them if you'd like.

I know you said you weren't considering relocating right now, but maybe some of this will be useful in the future. Seems like RobKohr has no plan to fix the issues any time soon (editthis.info/wiki/User_talk:RobKohr#Not_dead).

If you don't mind my asking, why are you so hesitant to relocate?

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 17:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

== Am I doing this right? ==

I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.

I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

:Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?

:I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated.

:Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.

:In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval.
P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?

== Found an ad ==

[[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Smutty Sex Romp XML ==

I made an XML dump of every page in Smutty Sex Romp, if you'd want it. You might've already dumped it all yourself, but here's my attempt:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/11_utRYXuREM2XQ6wkN-J7MsXud7ZIZUx?usp=sharing

I was having trouble with the dump generator ("XML crawler") that Durzan couldn't get working, so I have been trying to dump the site with the [[Special:Export|Export]] tool. Not much success so far, since the pedo ban has wrecked the [[Special:AllPages|AllPages]] catalogue. Might just have to move everything one story at at time when the time comes.

And I have no clue how XML dumps are usually organized, so this one is alphabetical. Ideally, an updated version should be made at moving time (unless that time is very soon, which is doubtful). This one is more a proof of concept.

Anywho, hope it helps! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

:I made one for Rampage today, which was significantly easier. Again, I'm sorry if this is redundant and you've already made recent dumps, but here's today's:

:drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cluXE4NwpDXxjlYdvMRVOY74i64bgCEH?usp=sharing

:I noticed though that the page numbers aren't consistent. At all. I remember seeing a significantly higher page count yesterday than I'm seeing today, and I was able to dump more pages from the category than listed (front page says 4,232 articles in Rampage, but I pulled around 4,900 [I refreshed it, and now 4,231, but there's nothing about it on the recent changes page]). Weird bug I guess. Lots of those around here.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 19:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(cross posted from Pickles discussion) Just going to note that I have grabbed the XML, and confirmed that they DO load into a fresh wiki. There are some things that need cleanup, (some of the category: pages) but otherwise, it works. I DID have to make some changes to the settings. Specifically ini_set('memory_limit', '2048M'); and set_time_limit(6000); were required to let the largest pages load. --[[User:deefdragon|deefdragon]] 23:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

== Need a few pages renamed ==

I was doing a little up-aging in Smutty Sex Romp, and a few titles need changing. It's all 'preteen' stuff, so just changing that word to 'teen' instead should suffice. Though I wonder about the use of 'come' as a noun (in the first item on the list). I always thought of 'cum' as semen, and 'come' as orgasm or ejaculation. Anyway, I'll make sure everything links together after you've changed the names. And no rush by the way; you might want to wait until the site loads a little faster before renaming the articles.
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
#[[Go over to the come-covered preteen]]
#[[Go over to the preteen and the pony]]
#[[I want to pin your daughter down and make you watch me pound her preteen body until she's crying]]
#[[Hose_the_preteen_with_sperm]]
#[[Let_the_preteen_lead_you_to_safety]]
#[[Swim_back_to_shore_to_find_the_preteen]]
</div>

You've done a really great job scrubbing underage content so far. Seems like most of the stuff I found by searching the XML had already been corrected by you. It's a shame that we have to censor so much though. Hopefully in the future lawmakers will draw a line between fiction and action so we won't have to worry about the legal consequences of something as silly as a number on a screen.

Thank you! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 20:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main Pages Stories ==

Hello there!

I moved my story - The Interstellar Desire - to the Up and Coming section as you said. It will obviously take a long time to finish, but at what point or number of pages is it allowed to go on the main page? It would really help clarify.

It would be much appreciated! --[[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 12:06, 29th July 2020 (UTC)

== I swear that wasn't a power move or anything ==

I had [[User:Nakedboy]]'s (incomplete and user) pages open at the same time you did! I just took so long writing them that you beat me to the chase. It didn't warn me about a page conflict when I posted a comment on his page, so I had no clue you'd already handled it until I went to save the incomplete page. I didn't even know there was a warning for edit conflicts (probably isn't utilized much lately).

You're really on the ball today Platypus! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
:It's hard to imagine a CYOS so busy that people were tripping over each other trying to edit the same pages. It was a good problem to have looking back, yeah? Although I'm sure a dispute between you and Yihman about something like that probably wouldn't have gone well.
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

== Young woman vs. girl ==

I was correcting excess spacing on the page [[Follow the pigtailed teen to the bathroom]] and noticed that all references to "girl" have been changed to "young woman". I understand that all content involving minors had to be removed from the site, which is why all the preteen references were changed to teen, but is it also necessary to remove "girl"? "Girl" is often used in reference to legal female adults and as long as the character is established as a legal adult, it shouldn't be rule-breaking to call her a "girl". IMO, "girl" flows better and seems more suited to the story - "young woman" sounds too formal - but I'll change it back to "young woman" and won't alter anything else if absolutely necessary. [[User:AgentVincent|AgentVincent]] 19:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

Pickles — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 17:34:56 GMT

Pickles: /* Alternative home for Smutty? */

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive2]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
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== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

==...On [[Three Sisters: Remastered]]==

Hey plat, thanks for reminding me about this.

The story itself was written before the underage sex ban was put into effect, and was abandoned completely when the author went AWOL three years ago. The original author had noticed that the original had a bunch of broken links and decided to take the opportunity to start over, leading to the second version of the story. However, he never finished transferring over the pages he had already finished, and since the story was private, nobody else had added any new content.

I was not adding any new content to the story, but going through and copying and pasting the missing routes from the original into the remastered version, consolidating a few pages, that sort of thing. I was NOT adding or writing any new content. I was planning and am still planning to go through one by one and update them to fit current standards and try to remove the underage sex by upping the age as you suggested.

On the surface, there seems to be a fairly easy to superficially adjust the story so that it works as the only place where Bayley's age/school year is mentioned is in the opening page (AFAIK), which is where it says she's a 5th grader. I've been pondering how to make the changes on the title page for the characters that need to be aged up without seriously messing up continuity errors in the story like what happened in Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp, but haven't yet come up with any decent solutions. However, upon looking closer, I realized that even with doing an artificial age bump, Bayley's character would still look and act like a 5th grader in all subsequent pages. I dunno about you, but if a character is stated to be 18 in the opening pages and was acting like a 5th grader... wouldn't that make me think that it was a flimsy edit or excuse to hide underage sex? That seems like a morally gray area that the rules of the site do not address one way or another.

If it breaks the rules, then I would have to go through every single page and significantly alter the story, which wasn't my original intent (remember I am just consolidating information, and making grammar/clarification edits, not adding anything new).

Any idea's on a solution for the greater issue?

In the mean-time, I'll gladly up the ages on the MC's sisters in the original post and anywhere else in the story I can find that explicitly makes reference to their age.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 19:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Abandoned and Adopted Stories ==

Hey Plat,

Just kinda wondering, what can be done about the many stories that have been abandoned? I know I added to and reworked the status tags for stories when I was working on the Main Page revamp a few months back, but there are a lot of stories that are uncategorized according to the newer system, and there is probably more we can do.

With the {{Abandoned}} tag, my intent was that a story with the abandoned tag (and thus hasn't been worked on by the primary author) is up for being "adopted" by another more active user.

To reflect this, I recently created and added the new {{Adopted}} tag to the main page. The idea (which I pulled from CHYOA) is that if someone wishes to continue or maintain a story that has been abandoned for a while, they can attach that tag to the story and basically take up the mantle of the main author. This is to ensure that all abandoned stories have a chance of being worked on and actively maintained. Of course, if the original author returns and starts working on it again, then the adopted author should respect the original author's wishes.

My reason for doing this is that there are many private stories (or public stories that see little activity), that only had one author working on them, and then all of a sudden, the user just stops coming. Those stories just sit there, with no love.

Another thought that I had as a possibility, is that abandoned stories could be edited by anyone, regardless of its original status.

What is your thoughts on this matter?

I ask this, because I've sort of already adopted [[Three Sisters: Remastered]], and I just don't wanna step on any toes.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Contacting Other Users ==

Hey Plat,

I've been trying to contact [[User:Tapdancingfish]] (who hasn't been active in two years) but I've had little luck so far. Any leads or ideas on how to go about it? Already tried his skype, and that doesn't work; don't know his/her email address (besides, he/she has already forgotten the password once, so not sure it would be effective anyway).
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies for grammar infractions ==

Thanks for the input on the pages I submitted. I've fixed a few capitalization mistakes and a missing period. Don't know why I didn't see those earlier. I don't intend on being a heavy contributor, but I would like to expand on a few neglected branches of the Rampage and SSR stories. If I do add more pages I'll be sure to check and double-check grammar before posting.

--[[User:Levinyurius|Levinyurius]] 18:28 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Issues with External Images==

@Platypus Hey Platypus. Sorry for making your front page look ugly with my text, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something. In my story, [[Camp Skylight]], I tried to insert an image several times. I've done everything that the advanced guide said. When I want to insert an external link that should immediately display a picture on the page, I keep getting reCaptchas which I can't get away from. When I complete a reCaptcha to prove I'm human and not a spammer or a bot, it says that I've done it right. But when I want to save changes to a page with the external link on it, the process of reCaptchas keep repeating itself and thus I can't insert external links, as well as images. Am I doing something wrong, or is this an error from the site itself? --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 19:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Created a new subsection to prevent this from cluttering, blocking the quick link, or not getting spotted.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer in my discussion, Platypus. I tried something else regarding this issue, and I think that the solution lies with the site you use for uploading your image. Beforehand, I used Imgur to implement pictures in my story. That just wouldn't work, so I used an alternative, TinyPic. This time it worked! --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 21:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Life of a 13 year old]] probably needs to be dealt with... ==

While browsing through the recent changes page, I noticed that a new user, [[User:Bigboi1216]], was creating and editing pages for that story, which if I recall correctly is a story that completely revolves around underage sex. Naturally that is against the site rules. Since he is a new user who seems enthusiastic about adding to certain stories, I figured that he may not have neccesarily seen the rules on the front page and gave him a friendly heads up about the no underage sex rule, and let him know that the particular story he was working on is old and bloated and has practically been rendered off limits till it can be effectively dealt with. With that being said, It might be worth talking to him about this yourself.

As far as the story itself goes, it should probably be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it were a small story with only a few pages dealing with it, and an ambiguous title, then I'd have taken care of it myself. But there's 400 pages I'd have to go through and there's a rather blatantant title I don't have the power to change... so not sure if thats something I have the ability to reasonably deal with. I suspect this is the reason why this story hasn't been dealt with and instead given a DNE tag is because of this, and the fact that it has long been listed on the front page.

As a temporary and preliminary measure, I've removed the story off the front page, but that won't prevent others from coming and editing or adding to the story if they know how and where to look. Any ideas? Or should we just let sleeping dogs lie (not necessarily the best choice given how a new user just started adding to a DNE story that currently violates website rules).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== How did you apply for staff? ==

I'm wondering how to apply for a position in CYOS staff.

Not really sure if you are the person to ask about this, or even if this is how its supposed to be done on here, but you are the only active one still regularly on here, and I have to start somewhere. Plus, I figured you could use some help... so letting you know I'm up for the responsibility wouldn't hurt. Not seeing anyone else applying, so I'd figure I would at least give a tentative offer.

I do have experience as both a forum moderator and as a chat moderator on Crunchyroll, plus there's the whole rework of the front page that I did earlier in the year.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Update on applying for staff as well as getting you some deputies: I managed to find RobKohr's talk page on the main site. He seems like he was at least somewhat active over there within the past month or so, as he responded to a relatively recent comment over there.

I went ahead and posted a request that he consider adding new admins for CYOS to help you out, and then offered to serve in a staff position if he found me trustworthy. Also put in a few good words for you and Bunni.

With any luck, Rob will see the message and respond. Even if Rob doesn't see fit to promote me, hopefully he will promote a few other trustworthy people to help you out who are just as active as I am, if not more.

P.S. Would you be willing to vouch for me?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== [[Family Ties]] is another story that revolves around underage sex... and has lots of pages ==

Read through a few of the 400 some-odd pages of this story clearly revealed that this story hinges upon underage sex. In one route that I followed, I found that the 9-year-old daughter actively seeks to seduce the dad (Who's the POV character for the route). Later on in that same branch, you find out that the 16 year old first born tried to seduce the dad also when she was younger... and turned to sexually "playing" with the 9-year-old when her advances were rebuffed.

Its a damn shame that this story breaks the wiki rules, because the story itself seems well written and organized. I can tell that the author put a lot of thought and effort into this story, and as an author, I wince at the thought of seeing all that effort go to waste. But, rules are rules, so something needs to be done about it.

Since this is the second big story I've come across that revolves around underage sex, it might be a good idea for us to keep a list of these stories. They are too big for us to manually change to follow the rules, and even if we did so, the entire premise of these stories would have to be rewritten anyway. Probably would be best to make a running list of these types of stories and/or create a new category/index to dump them in while we figure out how to deal with them. If/when a story and its pages gets completely deleted or edited, we can take the story off said list.

Of course, if there's a mass deletion option, that easily solves the problem of cleaning up irredeemable stories, but my best guess is that should only be used as a last resort.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 05:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== Banned story index ==

A banned story index wouldn't be a bad idea, though it would have to be restricted if we wish to avoid people flocking to it or deliberately creating stories in said index.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Main Page Edits, Disclaimer & Protections ==

Hey Plat, I actually kinda liked the edits that [[User:Tarash‎]] made, though he probably should've asked first before editing it. I do think the changes that the version without the columns in the disclaimer honestly looks the best and that the main page should have the website introduction from that older version reapplied. Heck, I'd have done it myself earlier if it occurred to me AND if I figured out how to do it without making it look horrible.

I do agree with [[User:CheapKit]]'s admonition and blocking for essentially reverting your revert (At least that's what it looks like under recent changes) and including disclaimers. If any disclaimers are added, it needs to be carefully thought out by the admins.

As far as protections on the Main Page goes, I do agree with protecting it, as since it is often the first thing people see when they come to the site, it will be the first target for vandals and trolls. However, the protection does present a problem, as it hinders my abilities to edit out mistakes, make some minor tweaking, and generally see what works and doesn't work. Perhaps only allowing trusted users to edit the main page would be a good compromise? Or if there isn't an easy way to set that up (without help from RobKohr), then maybe we could make a [[Template:MainPage]] for it so that we can edit the Main Page behind the scenes, yet still have it be protected on the main page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

== Have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? ==

Hey Plat,

Just out of curiosity, have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? Just a thought that I had. You'd also be able to keep the story as wholesome or as sick and twisted as you'd like.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== Possible spam? ==
Hi Platypus,

I've got a strange message asking me to help contribute to an article. Nothing strange about the message itself, but rather what I found afterwards. I've looked at the article and it seems to be a biographical article about a person, rather than a story. Except, I've just googled the person. I found countless articles on many other Wiki sites about this person, all with contradicting and oftentimes provably false information on them. It's very odd, and I don't know why anyone would do this, but I thought you should know.

The article in question is [[Mother Nature]], and the user is [[User:MotherN8ture]]. --[[User:Incubus|Incubus]] 16:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Incubus]] No, I am writing my page because I am an author. I write stories and novels. My novels will be written as articles here soon. --[[User:MotherN8ture|MotherN8ture]] 17:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

== Site downage and what to do about it ==

Hey Plat,

Any idea what caused the recent 2-day downing of the website?

I know we can't really do much to prevent it here, as we don't run the site as a whole, but... maybe we could find another provider? I'm kinda tired of the lack of maintenance and active support we are receiving from RobKohr, and thinking its probably time to figure out how to go about either creating a new independent wiki or figuring out how to archive and transfer the stuff from here to a different farm with newer features and less jankiness. And on the plus side, starting from scratch would allow you and I would to come up with the rules.

Keep in mind, this is just me spitballing here; I'm not exactly sure how much effort it would be or how much it'd cost. But something needs to be done, and RobKohr probably isn't around to do it.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Would a host transfer be possible without RobKohr's help? Do you have access to the CYOS archives? Could you conceivably download it?

I think I found a wikifarm that's free, more up to date, and most importantly, might be willing to host a site such as this. Its hard to say for sure though.

miraheze.org

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

== Renaming pages? ==
Hello, I was wondering how I would go about renaming or moving a page?
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 11:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh in the story Hot and Horny by a year and renaming the pages accordingly.
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 10:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks and Apologies ==
Hello! This isn't really a complaint or flag, so I wasn't even sure if I should say something, but I wanted to thank you for making some edits to pages I've posted. I'm still somewhat new to the site, but I'm happy to make the adjustments, and I'm sorry to make you go through that work!

I'll be careful not to make errors like that again. (If this isn't really the place for a message like this, feel free to take it down! Just maybe let me know so I know not to do it again.)
--[[User:Knliqur|Knliqur]] 9:34 PM, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

== Site Downage -- Part 2 ==

Hey Plat,

Just got a message from Friedman (the site owner of CHYOA). He has heard how the site has been having bandwith and hosting problems for a while now, and suspects that sooner or later editthis.info will go offline for good. As such, he wanted me to introduce you to him so that the two of you could talk it over and figure out how he could help with these issues. His first thought was to offer to host the site himself if you are up for it. I did tell him that you don't have access to the server archives and that RobKohr is notoriously hard to contact, but hey... you got an offer!

I'd talk to him on CHYOA if I were you (Didn't you once create an account there to point out that someone tried to plagiarize your work?), maybe the two of you can figure something out. If nothing else, transferring some of the stories over to CHYOA would definitely be on the table (though it'd be long and tedious).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I sent a message to your old CHYOA account. If you can't find your login password, but can remember the email linked for it, it shouldn't be hard to reset your password. If you end up unable to do so, I can always speak with Friedman about it, as he and I talk fairly regularly on moderation (I got recruited as a mod back in November).

Since you have been thinking about transferring, did you have any luck getting access to the archives?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:Not to stick my nose too far in here, but did you ever end up contacting Friedman, Platypus? I'm wondering whether a move is imminent or if the topic has been dropped again. I was wanting to start organizing and scrubbing other works we might like to move, but what that organization and scrubbing looks like could be very different depending on Friedman's terms. I left a couple messages with Durzan too (some more than a month ago) but it seems like he hasn't been active here lately.

:I can see why you haven't decided to pick up and move yourself, though. Looking through potential WikiFarms, I haven't yet found one as laissez-faire as editthis.info.

:--[[User talk:Pickles|Pickles]] 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ya happy now you little fucking weasel? ==

There,

I CatEgorIzEd my pages,
Which I was GOING to do, after i'd finished what I was writing currently,
have you no patience?
For fucks sake,

Why're you so critical on people categorizing their pages so instantly?
Chill the fuck out dude.

Also stop editing my talk page with your pathetic sPecIaL little messages,
let me write smut in piece damn you!

Sincerely: Some one who you DON'T fuck with.

Or you will regret it.

== Alternative home for Smutty? ==

Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

-

I looked a little further into that Miraheze wikifarm Durzan recommended; seems like they might actually allow a site like this. The most similar (to CYOS) existing site I found was Star Wars Erotica Wiki (swew.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page). And a few years ago someone made a request for a Yiff wiki that was approved, so I can't see them turning down a CYOS style site (you can see the discussion about the Yiff wiki here-> meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_2#Not_Safe_for_Work_Content_Policy.3F).

Main NSFW content rules seem to be that

1. Everything has to be legal in Netherlands, U.S., and U.K., (so rule 1 still stands, since underage sex stories are a legally grey area at best) and

2. No pornographic images of real people (drawings and 3D renders seem to be fine)

It's possible I've missed something else important in the Content Policy, so you might want to have a look at it for yourself (meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy). Additionally, Miraheze is free and ad-free.

Regarding the transfer of stories, the 'import' function would almost definitely be available to Bureaucrats (MediaWiki permission defaults even let Admins use it). So moving Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage would be very possible, if time consuming (as only small xml files can be imported using 'import,' around 100 pages in size). I'll make another set of Smutty Sex Romp xml files suitable for transferring this way soon. I'd be happy to help you import them if you'd like.

I know you said you weren't considering relocating right now, but maybe some of this will be useful in the future. Seems like RobKohr has no plan to fix the issues any time soon (editthis.info/wiki/User_talk:RobKohr#Not_dead).

If you don't mind my asking, why are you so hesitant to relocate?

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 17:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

== Am I doing this right? ==

I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.

I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

:Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?

:I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated.

:Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.

:In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval.
P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?

== Found an ad ==

[[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Smutty Sex Romp XML ==

I made an XML dump of every page in Smutty Sex Romp, if you'd want it. You might've already dumped it all yourself, but here's my attempt:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/11_utRYXuREM2XQ6wkN-J7MsXud7ZIZUx?usp=sharing

I was having trouble with the dump generator ("XML crawler") that Durzan couldn't get working, so I have been trying to dump the site with the [[Special:Export|Export]] tool. Not much success so far, since the pedo ban has wrecked the [[Special:AllPages|AllPages]] catalogue. Might just have to move everything one story at at time when the time comes.

And I have no clue how XML dumps are usually organized, so this one is alphabetical. Ideally, an updated version should be made at moving time (unless that time is very soon, which is doubtful). This one is more a proof of concept.

Anywho, hope it helps! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

:I made one for Rampage today, which was significantly easier. Again, I'm sorry if this is redundant and you've already made recent dumps, but here's today's:

:drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cluXE4NwpDXxjlYdvMRVOY74i64bgCEH?usp=sharing

:I noticed though that the page numbers aren't consistent. At all. I remember seeing a significantly higher page count yesterday than I'm seeing today, and I was able to dump more pages from the category than listed (front page says 4,232 articles in Rampage, but I pulled around 4,900 [I refreshed it, and now 4,231, but there's nothing about it on the recent changes page]). Weird bug I guess. Lots of those around here.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 19:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(cross posted from Pickles discussion) Just going to note that I have grabbed the XML, and confirmed that they DO load into a fresh wiki. There are some things that need cleanup, (some of the category: pages) but otherwise, it works. I DID have to make some changes to the settings. Specifically ini_set('memory_limit', '2048M'); and set_time_limit(6000); were required to let the largest pages load. --[[User:deefdragon|deefdragon]] 23:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

== Need a few pages renamed ==

I was doing a little up-aging in Smutty Sex Romp, and a few titles need changing. It's all 'preteen' stuff, so just changing that word to 'teen' instead should suffice. Though I wonder about the use of 'come' as a noun (in the first item on the list). I always thought of 'cum' as semen, and 'come' as orgasm or ejaculation. Anyway, I'll make sure everything links together after you've changed the names. And no rush by the way; you might want to wait until the site loads a little faster before renaming the articles.
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
#[[Go over to the come-covered preteen]]
#[[Go over to the preteen and the pony]]
#[[I want to pin your daughter down and make you watch me pound her preteen body until she's crying]]
#[[Hose_the_preteen_with_sperm]]
#[[Let_the_preteen_lead_you_to_safety]]
#[[Swim_back_to_shore_to_find_the_preteen]]
</div>

You've done a really great job scrubbing underage content so far. Seems like most of the stuff I found by searching the XML had already been corrected by you. It's a shame that we have to censor so much though. Hopefully in the future lawmakers will draw a line between fiction and action so we won't have to worry about the legal consequences of something as silly as a number on a screen.

Thank you! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 20:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main Pages Stories ==

Hello there!

I moved my story - The Interstellar Desire - to the Up and Coming section as you said. It will obviously take a long time to finish, but at what point or number of pages is it allowed to go on the main page? It would really help clarify.

It would be much appreciated! --[[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 12:06, 29th July 2020 (UTC)

== I swear that wasn't a power move or anything ==

I had [[User:Nakedboy]]'s (incomplete and user) pages open at the same time you did! I just took so long writing them that you beat me to the chase. It didn't warn me about a page conflict when I posted a comment on his page, so I had no clue you'd already handled it until I went to save the incomplete page. I didn't even know there was a warning for edit conflicts (probably isn't utilized much lately).

You're really on the ball today Platypus! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
:It's hard to imagine a CYOS so busy that people were tripping over each other trying to edit the same pages. It was a good problem to have looking back, yeah? Although I'm sure a dispute between you and Yihman about something like that probably wouldn't have gone well.
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

== Young woman vs. girl ==

I was correcting excess spacing on the page [[Follow the pigtailed teen to the bathroom]] and noticed that all references to "girl" have been changed to "young woman". I understand that all content involving minors had to be removed from the site, which is why all the preteen references were changed to teen, but is it also necessary to remove "girl"? "Girl" is often used in reference to legal female adults and as long as the character is established as a legal adult, it shouldn't be rule-breaking to call her a "girl". IMO, "girl" flows better and seems more suited to the story - "young woman" sounds too formal - but I'll change it back to "young woman" and won't alter anything else if absolutely necessary. [[User:AgentVincent|AgentVincent]] 19:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Ohyes

Pickles — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 12:44:40 GMT

Pickles: /* Family Movies doesn't really follow the rules */ new section

Flee out the nearest window

Pickles — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 06:02:25 GMT

Pickles:

You sneak quietly through the apartment to the window. The police keep pounding at the door. You slide the window open and step out onto the fire escape.

"Hello, mister."

You look to the side. There's a girl with blonde pigtails sitting on the metal steps leading up to the next floor.

"Someone after you, mister?" the girl asks. "There's always someone chasing people out of the drug lady's apartment. I'll give you someplace to hide if you lemme have some of that candy you got rattling in your pockets."

You pause. The pigtails make her look awfully young and her asking you for candy doesn't help. "How old are you?" you respond.

"19, mister," the girl says. "Are you coming or not?"

Do you:
*[[Follow the pigtailed woman to safety|Follow the pigtailed girl to safety]]
*[[Climb down the fire escape to the alleyway]]
*[[Tell the pigtailed woman to take off|Tell the pigtailed girl to take off]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Fire Escape]] Outside [[Nina's Apartment]]''|Health=Horny|MP=0|Level=1}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

User:Pickles/test/filter

Pickles — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:37:41 GMT

Pickles:

<div style="width: 50em; height:25em; overflow-y: scroll; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1;padding: .5em;">
Did I remember incorrectly that 'pedophilia' sets off the filter? Or perhaps it was the word 'pedophile.'
</div>

User:Pickles/test/filter

Pickles — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:33:37 GMT

Pickles:

<nowiki>pedophilia</nowiki>

<div style="width: 50em; height:25em; overflow-y: scroll; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1;padding: .5em;">
pedo romp
</div>

User:Pickles/test/filter

Pickles — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:27:58 GMT

Pickles:

<nowiki>pedophilia</nowiki> <nowiki>pedo romp</nowiki>

== pedo romp ==

User:Pickles/test/filter

Pickles — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:22:59 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'pedoromp <nowiki>pedo romp</nowiki> <nowiki>pedophilia</nowiki>'

pedoromp <nowiki>pedo romp</nowiki> <nowiki>pedophilia</nowiki>

User:Pickles/test

Pickles — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:11:30 GMT

Pickles:

<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible" style="width:200px; overflow:auto; float:right;">
<div style="font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">Other test pages</div>
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
*[[User:Pickles/test/filter]]
*[[User:Pickles/test/CYOS sword]]
</div></div>

== Test Embed ==
{{#ev:youtube|4H0XEPJdHIs|480}}

==Quick Links==
<div style="column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3">
'''Recent Changes Links'''

[[Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Smutty Sex Romp|Smutty]]

[[Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Rampage|Rampage]]

'''Grammar and Whatnot'''
*[[Tutorial]]
*[[Basic page format]]
*[[Punctuation with dialogue]]
*[[Colored text]]
*[[Advanced formatting techniques]]

'''Bookmarks'''
*[[Talk:Stop_and_ask_what_he%27s_doing]]
*[[Tell him you didn't understand the combat rules and that he can do whatever he wants to you]]

'''Pages in process of up-aging'''
*[[Attempt to scale the alley wall]]
*[[Do you turn to the right?]]
*[[Find a dildo to fill her twat with]]
*[[Fuck the MILF in front of her daughter]]
*[[Show him what a whore he is]]
*[[Skip her and drive on to find someone else]]
*[[Start pulling off her shirt]]
*[[Take a drive thru the neighborhood - perhaps you can round up a few kids ready to make a quick buck]]
*[[Take off all your clothes in front of him]]
*[[Take the naked Goth back to the security office]]
*[[Tell her she's very pretty]]
*[[Tell the little girl to put her hand back on your pecker]]
*[[Start crying for your mommy]]

'''People and Contributions'''

[[User talk:Platypus|Egg-laying mammal]]
*<small> [[Special:Contributions/Platypus]]</small>
[[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Anedwcan]]</small>
[[User:Teejay|Teejay]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Teejay]]</small>
[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/DirtyMeStoryTime]]</small>
[[User:Fredhot16|Fredhot16]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Fredhot16]]</small>
[[User:Magikarp7297|Magikarp7297]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Magikarp7297]]</small>
[[User:Kyre|Kyre]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Kyre]]</small>
[[User talk:LeonBlaze|LeonBlaze]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/LeonBlaze]]</small>
[[User talk:Narutostory|Narutostory]]
*<small>[[Special:Contributions/Narutostory]]</small>

</div>

==Pages I made==
For my own reference mostly. I've only included pages from stories: not user, talk, or 'test' pages.

<div style="width: 50em; height:25em; overflow-y: scroll; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1;padding: .5em;">
<small>8 May 2020</small>
*[[Let them fuck your brains out. You haven't had this many men at one time before, and just the thought of it has your pussy drooling|Perfectly innocent contribution, nothing to see here]]
<small>9 May 2020</small>
*[[Work as a pest control technician for Pestless Spirits, specializing in humane cockroach extermination]]
*[[A miniskirt and tanktop]]
*[[Read the pamphlet]]
*[[Don't read the pamphlet]]
<small>10 May 2020</small>
*[[Pick up another pamphlet]]
*[[Wait until Jason comes back]]
<small>11 May 2020</small>
*[[Trust Jason's judgement]]
<small>14 May 2020</small>
*[[Stick a butt plug up Miho's ass]]
*[[Tell Miho to let your cum spill out of her butt]]
<small>16 May 2020</small>
*[[Reply from Kevinsims22]]
<small>25 May 2020</small>
*[[Decide you don't want the job]]
*[[Go with Jason]]
*[[Tease Jason]]
<small>26 May 2020</small>
*[[Help Jason out]]
<small>30 May 2020</small>
*[[Message Anedwcan]]
*[[Invite Anedwcan over]]
*[[Grope her through her clothes]]
*[[Ask Anedwcan to remove her clothing]]
*[[Give Anedwcan a good finger fucking]]
<small>6 June 2020</small>
*[[Break into Platypus' apartment]]
*[[Break into his apartment]]
*[[Find something else to do]]
*[[Finger Platypus]]
*[[Fuck Platypus]]
*[[Leave him tied up and run for it]]
*[[Untie him and see what happens]]
*[[Try to touch his crotch with your foot]]
<small>10 June 2020</small>
*[[Roll the bread into a cylinder and stuff it up your twat]]
*[[Put another slice of bread in your twat]]
*[[Spread your legs for the crewman]]
<small>1 July 2020</small>
*[[Tell Penny that you don't want to be screwed by a screw]]
*[[Tell Penny you don't like fish]]
<small>28 July 2020</small>
*[[Step up to the Kissing Booth]]
*[[Get in line to kiss the redhead]]
<small>2 August 2020</small>
*[[Give her a dollar]]
*[[Ask if she offers any other services]]
</div>

User talk:AgentVincent

Pickles — Thu, 06 Aug 2020 19:11:46 GMT

Pickles: /* Young woman vs. girl */ new section

Welcome back! Long time no see! -- [[User: Teejay|Teejay]]

== Young woman vs. girl ==

While I can't speak for Platypus, other pages he has 'fixed' still use the term 'girl', like [[Dick the teen and pump more juice into her]] and [[Fuck the teen's virgin pussy]]. There's even stuff like [[Ask Alexis for a blowjob]] which feels like it's just kissing the edge of RobKohr's commandment. Seems like the rule (in practice) is that so long as specific ages or age ranges are not mentioned, everything's good. I think Rob was probably just trying to avoid something like the Red Rose Stories obscenity case (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law#Obscene_texts). Not sure if that was the particular case he was looking at (since it was a decade old when Rob added the rule) or if he just got paranoid (because 2015 was a weird time to start censoring content. I mean, did something relevant happen that year?).

It feels strange to be considering the legal consequences of a fictional woman's age (Ma'am, I'll need to see your fictional ID before you can enter this fictional bar. You ''left it at home''? Likely story).

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Jinzo

Pickles — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 19:30:55 GMT

Pickles:

== Categories and other rules ==

Hey Jinzo! Don't forget to add a category when you create a new page. To add a category, paste this into the editor:

<nowiki>[[Category:Wynn High]]</nowiki>

where 'Wynn High' is the name of whatever story you're adding to. Have a look at [[Basic page format]] along with the rest of the [[Tutorial]] before you do too much more editing!

I also want to warn you that underage 'obscene' content is not allowed on editthis.info sites. Specifically 'content explicitly related to sex with a minor.' I'm sure you've already found many stories on the site that break this rule, so I can understand how it might have seemed alright. I recommend reviewing the rules on the [[Main Page]].

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:30, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Jinzo

Pickles — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 19:08:31 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'Hey Jinzo! Don't forget to add a category when you create a new page. To add a category, paste this into the editor: <nowiki>Category:Wynn High</nowiki> where 'Wynn High' i…'

Hey Jinzo! Don't forget to add a category when you create a new page. To add a category, paste this into the editor:

<nowiki>[[Category:Wynn High]]</nowiki>

where 'Wynn High' is the name of whatever story you're adding to. Have a look at [[Basic page format]] along with the rest of the [[Tutorial]] before you do too much more editing!

I also want to warn you that underage 'obscene' content is not allowed on editthis.info sites. Specifically 'content explicitly related to sex with a minor.' I'm sure you've already found many stories on the site that break this rule, so I can understand how it might have seemed alright. I recommend reviewing the rules on the [[Main Page]].

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:08, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Male/WH

Pickles — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:50:23 GMT

Pickles: category

Your name is Mick Ryan.
You are a 13 year old attending your first day at Wynn High as a Freshman. As far as your family goes you have three stepsisters, one of which who’s also in your class. Your biological mother died when you were young. Your father, Jack (40), never fully recovered, but he did eventually meet your stepmom, [[Isabelle]] (34) , along with your three stepsisters, [[Riley]] (21), [[Maya]] (18), & [[Raven]] (14), who are from Isabelle’s first marriage.

To begin the day, what do you do?

[[Get up and eat breakfast with Raven]]

[[Spy on Riley]]

[[Masturbate thinking of your friend Amelia]]

[[Category:Wynn High]]

Wynn High

Pickles — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 18:50:19 GMT

Pickles: category

Welcome to Wynn High! This here is a story revolving around a new student of your choosing arriving to Wynn High for the first time. This story starts you at the beginning of your 9th grade until your 12th grade graduation.

The first thing we need to do is decide what gender/sex that you are.

I am:

[[Male/WH]]

[[Female/WH]]

[[Nonbinary/WH]]

[[Category:Wynn High]]

Billie’s pussy

Pickles — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:56:19 GMT

Pickles:

Billie’s wearing nothing but her socks and a wide smile, and her legs are spread even wider. She’s laid out to get laid, and you’re eager to lay her. You climb onto the bed and straddle her sweet young body. You rub you dickhead up and down the length of her juicy slit, making her moan. One you’re nicely slicked up, you ease your boner into her.

It feels as if her vaginal muscles are grabbing at your penis, trying to pull you inside her. You ease your body down on top of her as you slowly fill her. Her legs curl around your waist. You kiss her as you savor the feel of being encased in her tight twat.

You can only lay like that for so long before you can’t help pulling out and thrusting into her. She moans into your kiss as you pump her pussy. As you speed up your pace, she begins rocking beneath you, thrusting her hips upward to meet your downward strokes and drawing her body downward when you pull partway out. Her legs stay locked around your waist, ensuring that you don’t have enough room to pull all the way out.

You have a hard, fast fuck rhythm going when she cries out and cums hard, shuddering against you and making the bed vibrate. You hold out as long as you can, riding her spasming body, but it’s just too much. You groan and let loose, filling her womb with spurt after spurt of hot spunk. You’re left gasping from the expenditure and Billie is breathing hard.

The genie applauds lightly.

“Well fucked,” she says mildly. “Are you ready to make some other wish or do you wish to keep fucking her?”

Do you:
*[[Choose to make a second wish]]
*[[Continue to bang Billie’s box]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Relic Store]]''|Health=Horny|MP=0|Level=1}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Billie to strip

Pickles — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 22:46:21 GMT

Pickles: Of course Billie Eilish would dye her pubic hair

Billie stands on the bed and pulls her baggy shirt over her head. She twirls the shirt slowly, then tosses it away. She gives her bra-clad breasts a squeeze, then slowly shimmies her pants down her legs. She unlaces her boots, then one by one kicks them away. With them out of the way, she pulls off her pants and tosses them. She undoes her bra and lets her lovely breasts spring free. Finally, she slides her panties down and tosses them after the rest of her clothing. You’re amused to see that her pubic patch is dyed as green as the hair on her head.

“I’m ready for you,” Billie whispers sexily.

As she lies down on the bed, you whip out your erection. You bring it to:
*[[Billie’s mouth]]
*[[Billie’s pussy]]
*[[Billie’s bottom]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Relic Store]]''|Health=Horny|MP=0|Level=1}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Talk:Pump more jism into her hairless twat

Pickles — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 21:41:00 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'Isn't the number of red links on this page a little excessive? --~~~~'

Isn't the number of red links on this page a little excessive? --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 21:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Ask if she offers any other services

Pickles — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:24:22 GMT

Pickles:

"''Is'' there anything else you can do for me?" You ask.

Libby leans forward. "Well," she says, "My shift ends at 12, midnight. I offer 'other' services after that back behind the Freak-Show tent."

You:
*[[Tell Libby you'll come back at midnight]]
*[[Ask if she can make an exception for you]]

{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Ask if she offers any other services

Pickles — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:23:21 GMT

Pickles: Created page with '"''Is'' there anything else you can do for me?" You ask. Libby leans forward. "Well," she says, "My shift gets out at 12, midnight. I offer 'other' services after that back beh…'

"''Is'' there anything else you can do for me?" You ask.

Libby leans forward. "Well," she says, "My shift gets out at 12, midnight. I offer 'other' services after that back behind the Freak-Show tent."

You:
*[[Tell Libby you'll come back at midnight]]
*[[Ask if she can make an exception for you]]

{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Give her a dollar

Pickles — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 21:35:54 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'You hand Libby the bill and bend over to bring your face closer to hers. She sits up in her seat at the booth and kisses you. Her soft mouth tastes like chapstick and cotton cand…'

You hand Libby the bill and bend over to bring your face closer to hers. She sits up in her seat at the booth and kisses you. Her soft mouth tastes like chapstick and cotton candy. Libby sucks your bottom lip into her mouth, seemingly by accident from the noise of surprise that she makes, and then quickly releases it before breaking your kiss.

Libby looks up at you from her seat, cheeks flush. "Is there anything else I can do for you, miss?"

You:
*[[Ask if she offers any other services]]
*[[Hand her another dollar]]
*[[Ask if you can borrow her booth]]

{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

User talk:Platypus

Pickles — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 19:30:11 GMT

Pickles: /* I swear that wasn't a power move or anything */ -> I find that hard to believe

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive2]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive4]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive5]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive6]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive7]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive8]]

== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

----

Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

==...On [[Three Sisters: Remastered]]==

Hey plat, thanks for reminding me about this.

The story itself was written before the underage sex ban was put into effect, and was abandoned completely when the author went AWOL three years ago. The original author had noticed that the original had a bunch of broken links and decided to take the opportunity to start over, leading to the second version of the story. However, he never finished transferring over the pages he had already finished, and since the story was private, nobody else had added any new content.

I was not adding any new content to the story, but going through and copying and pasting the missing routes from the original into the remastered version, consolidating a few pages, that sort of thing. I was NOT adding or writing any new content. I was planning and am still planning to go through one by one and update them to fit current standards and try to remove the underage sex by upping the age as you suggested.

On the surface, there seems to be a fairly easy to superficially adjust the story so that it works as the only place where Bayley's age/school year is mentioned is in the opening page (AFAIK), which is where it says she's a 5th grader. I've been pondering how to make the changes on the title page for the characters that need to be aged up without seriously messing up continuity errors in the story like what happened in Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp, but haven't yet come up with any decent solutions. However, upon looking closer, I realized that even with doing an artificial age bump, Bayley's character would still look and act like a 5th grader in all subsequent pages. I dunno about you, but if a character is stated to be 18 in the opening pages and was acting like a 5th grader... wouldn't that make me think that it was a flimsy edit or excuse to hide underage sex? That seems like a morally gray area that the rules of the site do not address one way or another.

If it breaks the rules, then I would have to go through every single page and significantly alter the story, which wasn't my original intent (remember I am just consolidating information, and making grammar/clarification edits, not adding anything new).

Any idea's on a solution for the greater issue?

In the mean-time, I'll gladly up the ages on the MC's sisters in the original post and anywhere else in the story I can find that explicitly makes reference to their age.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 19:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Abandoned and Adopted Stories ==

Hey Plat,

Just kinda wondering, what can be done about the many stories that have been abandoned? I know I added to and reworked the status tags for stories when I was working on the Main Page revamp a few months back, but there are a lot of stories that are uncategorized according to the newer system, and there is probably more we can do.

With the {{Abandoned}} tag, my intent was that a story with the abandoned tag (and thus hasn't been worked on by the primary author) is up for being "adopted" by another more active user.

To reflect this, I recently created and added the new {{Adopted}} tag to the main page. The idea (which I pulled from CHYOA) is that if someone wishes to continue or maintain a story that has been abandoned for a while, they can attach that tag to the story and basically take up the mantle of the main author. This is to ensure that all abandoned stories have a chance of being worked on and actively maintained. Of course, if the original author returns and starts working on it again, then the adopted author should respect the original author's wishes.

My reason for doing this is that there are many private stories (or public stories that see little activity), that only had one author working on them, and then all of a sudden, the user just stops coming. Those stories just sit there, with no love.

Another thought that I had as a possibility, is that abandoned stories could be edited by anyone, regardless of its original status.

What is your thoughts on this matter?

I ask this, because I've sort of already adopted [[Three Sisters: Remastered]], and I just don't wanna step on any toes.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Contacting Other Users ==

Hey Plat,

I've been trying to contact [[User:Tapdancingfish]] (who hasn't been active in two years) but I've had little luck so far. Any leads or ideas on how to go about it? Already tried his skype, and that doesn't work; don't know his/her email address (besides, he/she has already forgotten the password once, so not sure it would be effective anyway).
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies for grammar infractions ==

Thanks for the input on the pages I submitted. I've fixed a few capitalization mistakes and a missing period. Don't know why I didn't see those earlier. I don't intend on being a heavy contributor, but I would like to expand on a few neglected branches of the Rampage and SSR stories. If I do add more pages I'll be sure to check and double-check grammar before posting.

--[[User:Levinyurius|Levinyurius]] 18:28 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Issues with External Images==

@Platypus Hey Platypus. Sorry for making your front page look ugly with my text, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something. In my story, [[Camp Skylight]], I tried to insert an image several times. I've done everything that the advanced guide said. When I want to insert an external link that should immediately display a picture on the page, I keep getting reCaptchas which I can't get away from. When I complete a reCaptcha to prove I'm human and not a spammer or a bot, it says that I've done it right. But when I want to save changes to a page with the external link on it, the process of reCaptchas keep repeating itself and thus I can't insert external links, as well as images. Am I doing something wrong, or is this an error from the site itself? --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 19:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Created a new subsection to prevent this from cluttering, blocking the quick link, or not getting spotted.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer in my discussion, Platypus. I tried something else regarding this issue, and I think that the solution lies with the site you use for uploading your image. Beforehand, I used Imgur to implement pictures in my story. That just wouldn't work, so I used an alternative, TinyPic. This time it worked! --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 21:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Life of a 13 year old]] probably needs to be dealt with... ==

While browsing through the recent changes page, I noticed that a new user, [[User:Bigboi1216]], was creating and editing pages for that story, which if I recall correctly is a story that completely revolves around underage sex. Naturally that is against the site rules. Since he is a new user who seems enthusiastic about adding to certain stories, I figured that he may not have neccesarily seen the rules on the front page and gave him a friendly heads up about the no underage sex rule, and let him know that the particular story he was working on is old and bloated and has practically been rendered off limits till it can be effectively dealt with. With that being said, It might be worth talking to him about this yourself.

As far as the story itself goes, it should probably be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it were a small story with only a few pages dealing with it, and an ambiguous title, then I'd have taken care of it myself. But there's 400 pages I'd have to go through and there's a rather blatantant title I don't have the power to change... so not sure if thats something I have the ability to reasonably deal with. I suspect this is the reason why this story hasn't been dealt with and instead given a DNE tag is because of this, and the fact that it has long been listed on the front page.

As a temporary and preliminary measure, I've removed the story off the front page, but that won't prevent others from coming and editing or adding to the story if they know how and where to look. Any ideas? Or should we just let sleeping dogs lie (not necessarily the best choice given how a new user just started adding to a DNE story that currently violates website rules).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== How did you apply for staff? ==

I'm wondering how to apply for a position in CYOS staff.

Not really sure if you are the person to ask about this, or even if this is how its supposed to be done on here, but you are the only active one still regularly on here, and I have to start somewhere. Plus, I figured you could use some help... so letting you know I'm up for the responsibility wouldn't hurt. Not seeing anyone else applying, so I'd figure I would at least give a tentative offer.

I do have experience as both a forum moderator and as a chat moderator on Crunchyroll, plus there's the whole rework of the front page that I did earlier in the year.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Update on applying for staff as well as getting you some deputies: I managed to find RobKohr's talk page on the main site. He seems like he was at least somewhat active over there within the past month or so, as he responded to a relatively recent comment over there.

I went ahead and posted a request that he consider adding new admins for CYOS to help you out, and then offered to serve in a staff position if he found me trustworthy. Also put in a few good words for you and Bunni.

With any luck, Rob will see the message and respond. Even if Rob doesn't see fit to promote me, hopefully he will promote a few other trustworthy people to help you out who are just as active as I am, if not more.

P.S. Would you be willing to vouch for me?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== [[Family Ties]] is another story that revolves around underage sex... and has lots of pages ==

Read through a few of the 400 some-odd pages of this story clearly revealed that this story hinges upon underage sex. In one route that I followed, I found that the 9-year-old daughter actively seeks to seduce the dad (Who's the POV character for the route). Later on in that same branch, you find out that the 16 year old first born tried to seduce the dad also when she was younger... and turned to sexually "playing" with the 9-year-old when her advances were rebuffed.

Its a damn shame that this story breaks the wiki rules, because the story itself seems well written and organized. I can tell that the author put a lot of thought and effort into this story, and as an author, I wince at the thought of seeing all that effort go to waste. But, rules are rules, so something needs to be done about it.

Since this is the second big story I've come across that revolves around underage sex, it might be a good idea for us to keep a list of these stories. They are too big for us to manually change to follow the rules, and even if we did so, the entire premise of these stories would have to be rewritten anyway. Probably would be best to make a running list of these types of stories and/or create a new category/index to dump them in while we figure out how to deal with them. If/when a story and its pages gets completely deleted or edited, we can take the story off said list.

Of course, if there's a mass deletion option, that easily solves the problem of cleaning up irredeemable stories, but my best guess is that should only be used as a last resort.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 05:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== Banned story index ==

A banned story index wouldn't be a bad idea, though it would have to be restricted if we wish to avoid people flocking to it or deliberately creating stories in said index.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Main Page Edits, Disclaimer & Protections ==

Hey Plat, I actually kinda liked the edits that [[User:Tarash‎]] made, though he probably should've asked first before editing it. I do think the changes that the version without the columns in the disclaimer honestly looks the best and that the main page should have the website introduction from that older version reapplied. Heck, I'd have done it myself earlier if it occurred to me AND if I figured out how to do it without making it look horrible.

I do agree with [[User:CheapKit]]'s admonition and blocking for essentially reverting your revert (At least that's what it looks like under recent changes) and including disclaimers. If any disclaimers are added, it needs to be carefully thought out by the admins.

As far as protections on the Main Page goes, I do agree with protecting it, as since it is often the first thing people see when they come to the site, it will be the first target for vandals and trolls. However, the protection does present a problem, as it hinders my abilities to edit out mistakes, make some minor tweaking, and generally see what works and doesn't work. Perhaps only allowing trusted users to edit the main page would be a good compromise? Or if there isn't an easy way to set that up (without help from RobKohr), then maybe we could make a [[Template:MainPage]] for it so that we can edit the Main Page behind the scenes, yet still have it be protected on the main page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

== Have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? ==

Hey Plat,

Just out of curiosity, have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? Just a thought that I had. You'd also be able to keep the story as wholesome or as sick and twisted as you'd like.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== Possible spam? ==
Hi Platypus,

I've got a strange message asking me to help contribute to an article. Nothing strange about the message itself, but rather what I found afterwards. I've looked at the article and it seems to be a biographical article about a person, rather than a story. Except, I've just googled the person. I found countless articles on many other Wiki sites about this person, all with contradicting and oftentimes provably false information on them. It's very odd, and I don't know why anyone would do this, but I thought you should know.

The article in question is [[Mother Nature]], and the user is [[User:MotherN8ture]]. --[[User:Incubus|Incubus]] 16:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Incubus]] No, I am writing my page because I am an author. I write stories and novels. My novels will be written as articles here soon. --[[User:MotherN8ture|MotherN8ture]] 17:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

== Site downage and what to do about it ==

Hey Plat,

Any idea what caused the recent 2-day downing of the website?

I know we can't really do much to prevent it here, as we don't run the site as a whole, but... maybe we could find another provider? I'm kinda tired of the lack of maintenance and active support we are receiving from RobKohr, and thinking its probably time to figure out how to go about either creating a new independent wiki or figuring out how to archive and transfer the stuff from here to a different farm with newer features and less jankiness. And on the plus side, starting from scratch would allow you and I would to come up with the rules.

Keep in mind, this is just me spitballing here; I'm not exactly sure how much effort it would be or how much it'd cost. But something needs to be done, and RobKohr probably isn't around to do it.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Would a host transfer be possible without RobKohr's help? Do you have access to the CYOS archives? Could you conceivably download it?

I think I found a wikifarm that's free, more up to date, and most importantly, might be willing to host a site such as this. Its hard to say for sure though.

miraheze.org

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

== Renaming pages? ==
Hello, I was wondering how I would go about renaming or moving a page?
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 11:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh in the story Hot and Horny by a year and renaming the pages accordingly.
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 10:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks and Apologies ==
Hello! This isn't really a complaint or flag, so I wasn't even sure if I should say something, but I wanted to thank you for making some edits to pages I've posted. I'm still somewhat new to the site, but I'm happy to make the adjustments, and I'm sorry to make you go through that work!

I'll be careful not to make errors like that again. (If this isn't really the place for a message like this, feel free to take it down! Just maybe let me know so I know not to do it again.)
--[[User:Knliqur|Knliqur]] 9:34 PM, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

== Site Downage -- Part 2 ==

Hey Plat,

Just got a message from Friedman (the site owner of CHYOA). He has heard how the site has been having bandwith and hosting problems for a while now, and suspects that sooner or later editthis.info will go offline for good. As such, he wanted me to introduce you to him so that the two of you could talk it over and figure out how he could help with these issues. His first thought was to offer to host the site himself if you are up for it. I did tell him that you don't have access to the server archives and that RobKohr is notoriously hard to contact, but hey... you got an offer!

I'd talk to him on CHYOA if I were you (Didn't you once create an account there to point out that someone tried to plagiarize your work?), maybe the two of you can figure something out. If nothing else, transferring some of the stories over to CHYOA would definitely be on the table (though it'd be long and tedious).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I sent a message to your old CHYOA account. If you can't find your login password, but can remember the email linked for it, it shouldn't be hard to reset your password. If you end up unable to do so, I can always speak with Friedman about it, as he and I talk fairly regularly on moderation (I got recruited as a mod back in November).

Since you have been thinking about transferring, did you have any luck getting access to the archives?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:Not to stick my nose too far in here, but did you ever end up contacting Friedman, Platypus? I'm wondering whether a move is imminent or if the topic has been dropped again. I was wanting to start organizing and scrubbing other works we might like to move, but what that organization and scrubbing looks like could be very different depending on Friedman's terms. I left a couple messages with Durzan too (some more than a month ago) but it seems like he hasn't been active here lately.

:I can see why you haven't decided to pick up and move yourself, though. Looking through potential WikiFarms, I haven't yet found one as laissez-faire as editthis.info.

:--[[User talk:Pickles|Pickles]] 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ya happy now you little fucking weasel? ==

There,

I CatEgorIzEd my pages,
Which I was GOING to do, after i'd finished what I was writing currently,
have you no patience?
For fucks sake,

Why're you so critical on people categorizing their pages so instantly?
Chill the fuck out dude.

Also stop editing my talk page with your pathetic sPecIaL little messages,
let me write smut in piece damn you!

Sincerely: Some one who you DON'T fuck with.

Or you will regret it.

== Alternative home for Smutty? ==

Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

== Am I doing this right? ==

I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.

I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

:Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?

:I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated.

:Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.

:In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval.
P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?

== Found an ad ==

[[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Smutty Sex Romp XML ==

I made an XML dump of every page in Smutty Sex Romp, if you'd want it. You might've already dumped it all yourself, but here's my attempt:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/11_utRYXuREM2XQ6wkN-J7MsXud7ZIZUx?usp=sharing

I was having trouble with the dump generator ("XML crawler") that Durzan couldn't get working, so I have been trying to dump the site with the [[Special:Export|Export]] tool. Not much success so far, since the pedo ban has wrecked the [[Special:AllPages|AllPages]] catalogue. Might just have to move everything one story at at time when the time comes.

And I have no clue how XML dumps are usually organized, so this one is alphabetical. Ideally, an updated version should be made at moving time (unless that time is very soon, which is doubtful). This one is more a proof of concept.

Anywho, hope it helps! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

:I made one for Rampage today, which was significantly easier. Again, I'm sorry if this is redundant and you've already made recent dumps, but here's today's:

:drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cluXE4NwpDXxjlYdvMRVOY74i64bgCEH?usp=sharing

:I noticed though that the page numbers aren't consistent. At all. I remember seeing a significantly higher page count yesterday than I'm seeing today, and I was able to dump more pages from the category than listed (front page says 4,232 articles in Rampage, but I pulled around 4,900 [I refreshed it, and now 4,231, but there's nothing about it on the recent changes page]). Weird bug I guess. Lots of those around here.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 19:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(cross posted from Pickles discussion) Just going to note that I have grabbed the XML, and confirmed that they DO load into a fresh wiki. There are some things that need cleanup, (some of the category: pages) but otherwise, it works. I DID have to make some changes to the settings. Specifically ini_set('memory_limit', '2048M'); and set_time_limit(6000); were required to let the largest pages load. --[[User:deefdragon|deefdragon]] 23:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

== Need a few pages renamed ==

I was doing a little up-aging in Smutty Sex Romp, and a few titles need changing. It's all 'preteen' stuff, so just changing that word to 'teen' instead should suffice. Though I wonder about the use of 'come' as a noun (in the first item on the list). I always thought of 'cum' as semen, and 'come' as orgasm or ejaculation. Anyway, I'll make sure everything links together after you've changed the names. And no rush by the way; you might want to wait until the site loads a little faster before renaming the articles.
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
#[[Go over to the come-covered preteen]]
#[[Go over to the preteen and the pony]]
#[[I want to pin your daughter down and make you watch me pound her preteen body until she's crying]]
#[[Hose_the_preteen_with_sperm]]
#[[Let_the_preteen_lead_you_to_safety]]
#[[Swim_back_to_shore_to_find_the_preteen]]
</div>

You've done a really great job scrubbing underage content so far. Seems like most of the stuff I found by searching the XML had already been corrected by you. It's a shame that we have to censor so much though. Hopefully in the future lawmakers will draw a line between fiction and action so we won't have to worry about the legal consequences of something as silly as a number on a screen.

Thank you! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 20:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main Pages Stories ==

Hello there!

I moved my story - The Interstellar Desire - to the Up and Coming section as you said. It will obviously take a long time to finish, but at what point or number of pages is it allowed to go on the main page? It would really help clarify.

It would be much appreciated! --[[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 12:06, 29th July 2020 (UTC)

== I swear that wasn't a power move or anything ==

I had [[User:Nakedboy]]'s (incomplete and user) pages open at the same time you did! I just took so long writing them that you beat me to the chase. It didn't warn me about a page conflict when I posted a comment on his page, so I had no clue you'd already handled it until I went to save the incomplete page. I didn't even know there was a warning for edit conflicts (probably isn't utilized much lately).

You're really on the ball today Platypus! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
:It's hard to imagine a CYOS so busy that people were tripping over each other trying to edit the same pages. It was a good problem to have looking back, yeah? Although I'm sure a dispute between you and Yihman about something like that probably wouldn't have gone well.
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Deefdragon

Pickles — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 19:25:17 GMT

Pickles: /* Hey, thanks! (Re:include XML load checked as working) */ -> Thanks (again)!

== Hey, thanks! (Re:include XML load checked as working) ==

I wasn't expecting the XML to be used at all (as Platypus isn't considering moving), but thanks for checking that it works! I am very sorry for the many different files (and their vastly different lengths). Also, how did you fix the category pages, and what was wrong? I could go back and change it in the file on google docs (or in any future backup) if it's something elementary enough -- if it's not already clear, I don't really know what I'm doing (haha).

I'm curious to know though-- how/where did you import it? Is the wiki up and usable somewhere, or did you test it locally?

However you did it, importing all of that must have been a headache. Thank you for testing it out :)

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 03:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:Jeez, I'll be sure to keep the files smaller next time I back up a story! And all of that is helpful to know; I'll include some mention of your difficulties in any future dumps so that nobody else has to endure that. Thank you again!
:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 19:25, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

Pickles — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 00:42:08 GMT

Pickles: /* I swear that wasn't a power move or anything */ new section

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive2]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive4]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive5]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive6]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive7]]
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== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

----

Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

==...On [[Three Sisters: Remastered]]==

Hey plat, thanks for reminding me about this.

The story itself was written before the underage sex ban was put into effect, and was abandoned completely when the author went AWOL three years ago. The original author had noticed that the original had a bunch of broken links and decided to take the opportunity to start over, leading to the second version of the story. However, he never finished transferring over the pages he had already finished, and since the story was private, nobody else had added any new content.

I was not adding any new content to the story, but going through and copying and pasting the missing routes from the original into the remastered version, consolidating a few pages, that sort of thing. I was NOT adding or writing any new content. I was planning and am still planning to go through one by one and update them to fit current standards and try to remove the underage sex by upping the age as you suggested.

On the surface, there seems to be a fairly easy to superficially adjust the story so that it works as the only place where Bayley's age/school year is mentioned is in the opening page (AFAIK), which is where it says she's a 5th grader. I've been pondering how to make the changes on the title page for the characters that need to be aged up without seriously messing up continuity errors in the story like what happened in Rampage and Smutty Sex Romp, but haven't yet come up with any decent solutions. However, upon looking closer, I realized that even with doing an artificial age bump, Bayley's character would still look and act like a 5th grader in all subsequent pages. I dunno about you, but if a character is stated to be 18 in the opening pages and was acting like a 5th grader... wouldn't that make me think that it was a flimsy edit or excuse to hide underage sex? That seems like a morally gray area that the rules of the site do not address one way or another.

If it breaks the rules, then I would have to go through every single page and significantly alter the story, which wasn't my original intent (remember I am just consolidating information, and making grammar/clarification edits, not adding anything new).

Any idea's on a solution for the greater issue?

In the mean-time, I'll gladly up the ages on the MC's sisters in the original post and anywhere else in the story I can find that explicitly makes reference to their age.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 19:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Abandoned and Adopted Stories ==

Hey Plat,

Just kinda wondering, what can be done about the many stories that have been abandoned? I know I added to and reworked the status tags for stories when I was working on the Main Page revamp a few months back, but there are a lot of stories that are uncategorized according to the newer system, and there is probably more we can do.

With the {{Abandoned}} tag, my intent was that a story with the abandoned tag (and thus hasn't been worked on by the primary author) is up for being "adopted" by another more active user.

To reflect this, I recently created and added the new {{Adopted}} tag to the main page. The idea (which I pulled from CHYOA) is that if someone wishes to continue or maintain a story that has been abandoned for a while, they can attach that tag to the story and basically take up the mantle of the main author. This is to ensure that all abandoned stories have a chance of being worked on and actively maintained. Of course, if the original author returns and starts working on it again, then the adopted author should respect the original author's wishes.

My reason for doing this is that there are many private stories (or public stories that see little activity), that only had one author working on them, and then all of a sudden, the user just stops coming. Those stories just sit there, with no love.

Another thought that I had as a possibility, is that abandoned stories could be edited by anyone, regardless of its original status.

What is your thoughts on this matter?

I ask this, because I've sort of already adopted [[Three Sisters: Remastered]], and I just don't wanna step on any toes.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Contacting Other Users ==

Hey Plat,

I've been trying to contact [[User:Tapdancingfish]] (who hasn't been active in two years) but I've had little luck so far. Any leads or ideas on how to go about it? Already tried his skype, and that doesn't work; don't know his/her email address (besides, he/she has already forgotten the password once, so not sure it would be effective anyway).
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies for grammar infractions ==

Thanks for the input on the pages I submitted. I've fixed a few capitalization mistakes and a missing period. Don't know why I didn't see those earlier. I don't intend on being a heavy contributor, but I would like to expand on a few neglected branches of the Rampage and SSR stories. If I do add more pages I'll be sure to check and double-check grammar before posting.

--[[User:Levinyurius|Levinyurius]] 18:28 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Issues with External Images==

@Platypus Hey Platypus. Sorry for making your front page look ugly with my text, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something. In my story, [[Camp Skylight]], I tried to insert an image several times. I've done everything that the advanced guide said. When I want to insert an external link that should immediately display a picture on the page, I keep getting reCaptchas which I can't get away from. When I complete a reCaptcha to prove I'm human and not a spammer or a bot, it says that I've done it right. But when I want to save changes to a page with the external link on it, the process of reCaptchas keep repeating itself and thus I can't insert external links, as well as images. Am I doing something wrong, or is this an error from the site itself? --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 19:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Created a new subsection to prevent this from cluttering, blocking the quick link, or not getting spotted.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer in my discussion, Platypus. I tried something else regarding this issue, and I think that the solution lies with the site you use for uploading your image. Beforehand, I used Imgur to implement pictures in my story. That just wouldn't work, so I used an alternative, TinyPic. This time it worked! --[[User:Axagon|Axagon]] 21:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

== [[Life of a 13 year old]] probably needs to be dealt with... ==

While browsing through the recent changes page, I noticed that a new user, [[User:Bigboi1216]], was creating and editing pages for that story, which if I recall correctly is a story that completely revolves around underage sex. Naturally that is against the site rules. Since he is a new user who seems enthusiastic about adding to certain stories, I figured that he may not have neccesarily seen the rules on the front page and gave him a friendly heads up about the no underage sex rule, and let him know that the particular story he was working on is old and bloated and has practically been rendered off limits till it can be effectively dealt with. With that being said, It might be worth talking to him about this yourself.

As far as the story itself goes, it should probably be dealt with in some form or fashion. If it were a small story with only a few pages dealing with it, and an ambiguous title, then I'd have taken care of it myself. But there's 400 pages I'd have to go through and there's a rather blatantant title I don't have the power to change... so not sure if thats something I have the ability to reasonably deal with. I suspect this is the reason why this story hasn't been dealt with and instead given a DNE tag is because of this, and the fact that it has long been listed on the front page.

As a temporary and preliminary measure, I've removed the story off the front page, but that won't prevent others from coming and editing or adding to the story if they know how and where to look. Any ideas? Or should we just let sleeping dogs lie (not necessarily the best choice given how a new user just started adding to a DNE story that currently violates website rules).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== How did you apply for staff? ==

I'm wondering how to apply for a position in CYOS staff.

Not really sure if you are the person to ask about this, or even if this is how its supposed to be done on here, but you are the only active one still regularly on here, and I have to start somewhere. Plus, I figured you could use some help... so letting you know I'm up for the responsibility wouldn't hurt. Not seeing anyone else applying, so I'd figure I would at least give a tentative offer.

I do have experience as both a forum moderator and as a chat moderator on Crunchyroll, plus there's the whole rework of the front page that I did earlier in the year.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 23:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Update on applying for staff as well as getting you some deputies: I managed to find RobKohr's talk page on the main site. He seems like he was at least somewhat active over there within the past month or so, as he responded to a relatively recent comment over there.

I went ahead and posted a request that he consider adding new admins for CYOS to help you out, and then offered to serve in a staff position if he found me trustworthy. Also put in a few good words for you and Bunni.

With any luck, Rob will see the message and respond. Even if Rob doesn't see fit to promote me, hopefully he will promote a few other trustworthy people to help you out who are just as active as I am, if not more.

P.S. Would you be willing to vouch for me?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== [[Family Ties]] is another story that revolves around underage sex... and has lots of pages ==

Read through a few of the 400 some-odd pages of this story clearly revealed that this story hinges upon underage sex. In one route that I followed, I found that the 9-year-old daughter actively seeks to seduce the dad (Who's the POV character for the route). Later on in that same branch, you find out that the 16 year old first born tried to seduce the dad also when she was younger... and turned to sexually "playing" with the 9-year-old when her advances were rebuffed.

Its a damn shame that this story breaks the wiki rules, because the story itself seems well written and organized. I can tell that the author put a lot of thought and effort into this story, and as an author, I wince at the thought of seeing all that effort go to waste. But, rules are rules, so something needs to be done about it.

Since this is the second big story I've come across that revolves around underage sex, it might be a good idea for us to keep a list of these stories. They are too big for us to manually change to follow the rules, and even if we did so, the entire premise of these stories would have to be rewritten anyway. Probably would be best to make a running list of these types of stories and/or create a new category/index to dump them in while we figure out how to deal with them. If/when a story and its pages gets completely deleted or edited, we can take the story off said list.

Of course, if there's a mass deletion option, that easily solves the problem of cleaning up irredeemable stories, but my best guess is that should only be used as a last resort.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 05:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

== Banned story index ==

A banned story index wouldn't be a bad idea, though it would have to be restricted if we wish to avoid people flocking to it or deliberately creating stories in said index.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:38, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Main Page Edits, Disclaimer & Protections ==

Hey Plat, I actually kinda liked the edits that [[User:Tarash‎]] made, though he probably should've asked first before editing it. I do think the changes that the version without the columns in the disclaimer honestly looks the best and that the main page should have the website introduction from that older version reapplied. Heck, I'd have done it myself earlier if it occurred to me AND if I figured out how to do it without making it look horrible.

I do agree with [[User:CheapKit]]'s admonition and blocking for essentially reverting your revert (At least that's what it looks like under recent changes) and including disclaimers. If any disclaimers are added, it needs to be carefully thought out by the admins.

As far as protections on the Main Page goes, I do agree with protecting it, as since it is often the first thing people see when they come to the site, it will be the first target for vandals and trolls. However, the protection does present a problem, as it hinders my abilities to edit out mistakes, make some minor tweaking, and generally see what works and doesn't work. Perhaps only allowing trusted users to edit the main page would be a good compromise? Or if there isn't an easy way to set that up (without help from RobKohr), then maybe we could make a [[Template:MainPage]] for it so that we can edit the Main Page behind the scenes, yet still have it be protected on the main page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

== Have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? ==

Hey Plat,

Just out of curiosity, have you considered turning Rampage into a twine game? Just a thought that I had. You'd also be able to keep the story as wholesome or as sick and twisted as you'd like.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

== Possible spam? ==
Hi Platypus,

I've got a strange message asking me to help contribute to an article. Nothing strange about the message itself, but rather what I found afterwards. I've looked at the article and it seems to be a biographical article about a person, rather than a story. Except, I've just googled the person. I found countless articles on many other Wiki sites about this person, all with contradicting and oftentimes provably false information on them. It's very odd, and I don't know why anyone would do this, but I thought you should know.

The article in question is [[Mother Nature]], and the user is [[User:MotherN8ture]]. --[[User:Incubus|Incubus]] 16:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User talk:Incubus]] No, I am writing my page because I am an author. I write stories and novels. My novels will be written as articles here soon. --[[User:MotherN8ture|MotherN8ture]] 17:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

== Site downage and what to do about it ==

Hey Plat,

Any idea what caused the recent 2-day downing of the website?

I know we can't really do much to prevent it here, as we don't run the site as a whole, but... maybe we could find another provider? I'm kinda tired of the lack of maintenance and active support we are receiving from RobKohr, and thinking its probably time to figure out how to go about either creating a new independent wiki or figuring out how to archive and transfer the stuff from here to a different farm with newer features and less jankiness. And on the plus side, starting from scratch would allow you and I would to come up with the rules.

Keep in mind, this is just me spitballing here; I'm not exactly sure how much effort it would be or how much it'd cost. But something needs to be done, and RobKohr probably isn't around to do it.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Would a host transfer be possible without RobKohr's help? Do you have access to the CYOS archives? Could you conceivably download it?

I think I found a wikifarm that's free, more up to date, and most importantly, might be willing to host a site such as this. Its hard to say for sure though.

miraheze.org

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

== Renaming pages? ==
Hello, I was wondering how I would go about renaming or moving a page?
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 11:03, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking of increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh in the story Hot and Horny by a year and renaming the pages accordingly.
--[[User:Vanill4L0ver|Vanill4L0ver]] 10:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks and Apologies ==
Hello! This isn't really a complaint or flag, so I wasn't even sure if I should say something, but I wanted to thank you for making some edits to pages I've posted. I'm still somewhat new to the site, but I'm happy to make the adjustments, and I'm sorry to make you go through that work!

I'll be careful not to make errors like that again. (If this isn't really the place for a message like this, feel free to take it down! Just maybe let me know so I know not to do it again.)
--[[User:Knliqur|Knliqur]] 9:34 PM, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

== Site Downage -- Part 2 ==

Hey Plat,

Just got a message from Friedman (the site owner of CHYOA). He has heard how the site has been having bandwith and hosting problems for a while now, and suspects that sooner or later editthis.info will go offline for good. As such, he wanted me to introduce you to him so that the two of you could talk it over and figure out how he could help with these issues. His first thought was to offer to host the site himself if you are up for it. I did tell him that you don't have access to the server archives and that RobKohr is notoriously hard to contact, but hey... you got an offer!

I'd talk to him on CHYOA if I were you (Didn't you once create an account there to point out that someone tried to plagiarize your work?), maybe the two of you can figure something out. If nothing else, transferring some of the stories over to CHYOA would definitely be on the table (though it'd be long and tedious).

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 04:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I sent a message to your old CHYOA account. If you can't find your login password, but can remember the email linked for it, it shouldn't be hard to reset your password. If you end up unable to do so, I can always speak with Friedman about it, as he and I talk fairly regularly on moderation (I got recruited as a mod back in November).

Since you have been thinking about transferring, did you have any luck getting access to the archives?

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:Not to stick my nose too far in here, but did you ever end up contacting Friedman, Platypus? I'm wondering whether a move is imminent or if the topic has been dropped again. I was wanting to start organizing and scrubbing other works we might like to move, but what that organization and scrubbing looks like could be very different depending on Friedman's terms. I left a couple messages with Durzan too (some more than a month ago) but it seems like he hasn't been active here lately.

:I can see why you haven't decided to pick up and move yourself, though. Looking through potential WikiFarms, I haven't yet found one as laissez-faire as editthis.info.

:--[[User talk:Pickles|Pickles]] 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ya happy now you little fucking weasel? ==

There,

I CatEgorIzEd my pages,
Which I was GOING to do, after i'd finished what I was writing currently,
have you no patience?
For fucks sake,

Why're you so critical on people categorizing their pages so instantly?
Chill the fuck out dude.

Also stop editing my talk page with your pathetic sPecIaL little messages,
let me write smut in piece damn you!

Sincerely: Some one who you DON'T fuck with.

Or you will regret it.

== Alternative home for Smutty? ==

Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

== Am I doing this right? ==

I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.

I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

:Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?

:I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated.

:Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.

:In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval.
P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?

== Found an ad ==

[[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages.
--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

[[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Smutty Sex Romp XML ==

I made an XML dump of every page in Smutty Sex Romp, if you'd want it. You might've already dumped it all yourself, but here's my attempt:

drive.google.com/drive/folders/11_utRYXuREM2XQ6wkN-J7MsXud7ZIZUx?usp=sharing

I was having trouble with the dump generator ("XML crawler") that Durzan couldn't get working, so I have been trying to dump the site with the [[Special:Export|Export]] tool. Not much success so far, since the pedo ban has wrecked the [[Special:AllPages|AllPages]] catalogue. Might just have to move everything one story at at time when the time comes.

And I have no clue how XML dumps are usually organized, so this one is alphabetical. Ideally, an updated version should be made at moving time (unless that time is very soon, which is doubtful). This one is more a proof of concept.

Anywho, hope it helps! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

:I made one for Rampage today, which was significantly easier. Again, I'm sorry if this is redundant and you've already made recent dumps, but here's today's:

:drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cluXE4NwpDXxjlYdvMRVOY74i64bgCEH?usp=sharing

:I noticed though that the page numbers aren't consistent. At all. I remember seeing a significantly higher page count yesterday than I'm seeing today, and I was able to dump more pages from the category than listed (front page says 4,232 articles in Rampage, but I pulled around 4,900 [I refreshed it, and now 4,231, but there's nothing about it on the recent changes page]). Weird bug I guess. Lots of those around here.

:--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 19:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(cross posted from Pickles discussion) Just going to note that I have grabbed the XML, and confirmed that they DO load into a fresh wiki. There are some things that need cleanup, (some of the category: pages) but otherwise, it works. I DID have to make some changes to the settings. Specifically ini_set('memory_limit', '2048M'); and set_time_limit(6000); were required to let the largest pages load. --[[User:deefdragon|deefdragon]] 23:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

== Need a few pages renamed ==

I was doing a little up-aging in Smutty Sex Romp, and a few titles need changing. It's all 'preteen' stuff, so just changing that word to 'teen' instead should suffice. Though I wonder about the use of 'come' as a noun (in the first item on the list). I always thought of 'cum' as semen, and 'come' as orgasm or ejaculation. Anyway, I'll make sure everything links together after you've changed the names. And no rush by the way; you might want to wait until the site loads a little faster before renaming the articles.
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
#[[Go over to the come-covered preteen]]
#[[Go over to the preteen and the pony]]
#[[I want to pin your daughter down and make you watch me pound her preteen body until she's crying]]
#[[Hose_the_preteen_with_sperm]]
#[[Let_the_preteen_lead_you_to_safety]]
#[[Swim_back_to_shore_to_find_the_preteen]]
</div>

You've done a really great job scrubbing underage content so far. Seems like most of the stuff I found by searching the XML had already been corrected by you. It's a shame that we have to censor so much though. Hopefully in the future lawmakers will draw a line between fiction and action so we won't have to worry about the legal consequences of something as silly as a number on a screen.

Thank you! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 20:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main Pages Stories ==

Hello there!

I moved my story - The Interstellar Desire - to the Up and Coming section as you said. It will obviously take a long time to finish, but at what point or number of pages is it allowed to go on the main page? It would really help clarify.

It would be much appreciated! --[[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 12:06, 29th July 2020 (UTC)

== I swear that wasn't a power move or anything ==

I had [[User:Nakedboy]]'s (incomplete and user) pages open at the same time you did! I just took so long writing them that you beat me to the chase. It didn't warn me about a page conflict when I posted a comment on his page, so I had no clue you'd already handled it until I went to save the incomplete page. I didn't even know there was a warning for edit conflicts (probably isn't utilized much lately).

You're really on the ball today Platypus! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

OYN/The kid from down the street you babysit

Pickles — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 00:33:38 GMT

Pickles: added options, category, punctuation

You fling open the door only to find Brian standing there. You used to babysit Brian back when he was about twelve. He looks shocked, then grins. He is definitely not twelve anymore.

Brian smiles at you. "Um hey my mom wanted me to stop by and see if you were having air problems. Should I assume you are?" He grins at you.

You try to play it cool, sweating and realizing that you opened the door completely naked. "Um, you, uh are you still in high school?"

Brian grins. "No I graduated last year, going to community college."

You smile at him coyly. "So uh, well I am dying here with all this heat."

Brian grins, looking over your body. "I have a few suggestions."

You:
*[[Ask Brian what he's suggesting]]
*[[Unzip Brian's pants]]
*[[Slam the door in Brian's face]]

[[Category: Oops! You're Naked!]]

User talk:Nakedboy

Pickles — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 00:20:33 GMT

Pickles: /* Welcome to CYOS! */ new section

{{incomplete}}--[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 23:56, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

== Welcome to CYOS! ==

Hey, welcome to the site! I recommend checking out [[Basic page format]] along with the rest of the [[Tutorial]] before you do too much more editing. The page you added recently was missing a category, so I went ahead and added one. To add a category to pages in the future, copy paste this bit of text anywhere into the page editor:

<nowiki>[[Category:Oops! You're Naked!]]</nowiki>

In this case, the story's category is 'Oops! You're Naked!' Usually categories are named identically to the story (though not always), and every story page should have a bit of text at the bottom denoting the category (both outside and inside the editor, if that makes sense -- I recommend looking at the [[Tutorial]] and [[Basic page format]] pages, as they do a much better job at explaining than I do).

Don't forget that CYOS pages need options! It's okay to just add redlinks to come back and write later, or even to just leave them for someone else to write. I put a few on the page you made, [[OYN/The kid from down the street you babysit]]. Click 'edit' at the top of that page to see what the links look like in the editor. If you need a little help with dialogue, [[Punctuation with dialogue]] is a good reference.

Happy writing! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 00:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Itsuki1965

Pickles — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:50:28 GMT

Pickles: A 'new' location Smutty Sex Romp

User:Pickles/draft

Pickles — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 04:53:44 GMT

Pickles:

= Pit By Genre--Adult stories =
'''Currently {{WIP}}'''

The adult section of the [[Pit of Abandoned Stories]] has grown so large that, for browsing purposes, I've organized them by genre. Reader discretion advised of course. If you find something detestable, there's always the (x) button at the corner of your browser.

<small> I have starred (★) works most worth reviving. </small>

==Fantasy==
Knights, castles, and magic. Also a couple supernatural stories.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
| style="width: 15%"|[[Angorea]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Angorea}} ||style="width: 20%"| # || style="width: 50%"|-''The author built a fantasy world but didn't bother to write the story for it.''
|-
|[[Another World]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Another World}} || rape, big dick || -''Your penis suddenly grows abnormally large, and you're swept away to a fairytale land where you're the king. Oh, and all the ladies in the fairytale have E-cup titties. Bad grammar.''
|-
|[[Arisen Anew]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Arisen Anew}} || demon || -''You're a demon who revels in pain and destruction. Story has an impressive status bar. Grammar could use some work.''
|-
|[[Assassin's Guild]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Assassin's Guild}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Awaylands]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Awaylands}} || # || -''Too many fourth-wall breaks.''
|-
|[[Barbarian]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Barbarian}} || # || -''Base of this story is pulled from a roleplaying forum (though the author of "Barbarian" neglected to credit it...) forums.spacebattles.com/threads/barbarian-a-kingdom-born-in-fire-blade-and-blood-quest.198795/
|-
|★[[The Cage]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:The Cage}} || vampires || -''Debated whether or not to star this one. It's alright, but I hate this text formatting with a passion.''
|-
|[[Camp Half-Blood]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Camp Half-Blood}} || Greek gods, rape || -''Congratulations, you're a demigod.''
|-
|[[Demon Rune]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Demon Rune}} || demon, angel || -''Just background, no story.''
|-
|[[A Demons gift|A Demon's Gift]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:A Demon's Gift}} || demon, transformation || -''The excessive text formatting made my eyes bleed.''
|-
|[[Dracula]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Dracula}} || vampire, femdom || -''Get tortured by the wives of Dracula. Not sure if femdom is the correct tag.''
|-
|[[Dreams of Desire]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Dreams of Desire}} || # || -''A dream world you visit when you're horny.''
|-
|[[Dungeons of lust]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Dungeons of lust}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Eris of the Red Lions]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Eris of the Red Lions}} || futa || ''You're a futa on a planet full of women and other futas. Also magic and stuff.''
|-
|[[Fantasy World]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Fantasy World}} || furry || -''I put this in fantasy because, as much as you can end up playing a cat-girl, other plot options are available. And this might be part fanfiction too (if "Strider" is in fact Aragorn).''
|-
|★[[The Kingdom]] || {{PAGESINCAT:The Kingdom}} || rape, slave || -''Play as a tyrannical prince and bend all of the peasant damsels to your will. A high-quality stub-- good writing and compelling storytelling. If you're going to adopt it, character ages will need adjustment.''
|-
|★[[A Knight's Quest]] || {{PAGESINCAT:A Knight's Quest}} || # || -''A well-organized, aptly written stub. Worth digging out of the pit if you've got the time.''
|}

==Furry==
Stories centered around anthropomorphic animals.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Another Furry World]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Another Furry World}} || style="width: 20%"|straight, gay, futa || style="width: 50%"|-''A fantasy where you can teleport from the real world to the "furry world." Seems based off of [[Furry World]].''
|-
|[[Kemonomimi Adventure]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Kemonomimi Adventure}} || mind control, transformation || -''You transform from a high-school boy into a sexy cat-girl and are forced by your mistress, Sydney, to service anyone who wants you.''
|}

==Fanfiction==
Based off of popular celebrities, movies, books, or other media.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Agent 069]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Agent 069}} ||style="width: 20%"| # || style="width: 50%"|-''Inspired by an erogame of the same name at spy.lessonofpassion.com''
|-
|[[Alex Rider]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Alex Rider}} || # || -''Nothing written in this story yet, just character selection options.''
|-
|[[All-Star Batman And Robin]] || {{PAGESINCAT:All-Star Batman And Robin}} || # || -''Set up to be a generic Batman story, but that's not what's written here. Crazy Steve, a loud homeless man, assumes the role of Batman after winning the lottery.''
|-
|[[Anime Neighborhood]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Anime Neighborhood}} || anime || -''You, a normal person, get to go to school in the neighborhood where all anime characters live. Only two anime characters so far are red links from Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho.''
|-
|[[Archie's Tale]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Archie's Tale}} || # || -''A Smutty Sex Romp spoof where Archie is the main character. Nothing special.''
|-
|[[Arthurian Fantasy]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Arthurian Fantasy}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[ASSassin's Creed]] || {{PAGESINCAT:ASSassin's Creed}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Avatar: Tsu'Tey and the wanderer]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Avatar : Tsu'Tey and the wanderer}}|| anime, gay, soft rape || -''You, Jake Sully, rub one out of your sleeping friend, Tsu'Tey.''
|-
|[[Bleached]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Bleached}} || anime || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Brain Bleached]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Brain Bleached}} || anime || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Divas Choose Your Own Adventure: Intercontinental Coozing]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Divas Choose Your Own Adventure: Intercontinental Coozing}} || girl on girl || ''WWE chicks tryna get some. Not exclusively lesbian, but not much else written yet.''
|-
|[[Doctor Who: Smutty Edition]] ||{{PAGESINCAT:Doctor Who: Smutty Edition}} || # || -''No narrative, just a title page. Maybe these articles should be deleted.''
|-
|[[Drake's Uncharted]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Drake's Uncharted}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[DRAMAtical Murder: Text Version]] || {{PAGESINCAT:DRAMAtical Murder: Text Version}} || gay, rape || -''A text-based rendition of the Japanese visual novel <u> DRAMAtical Murder</u>.''
|-
|[[Eastbound and Down: Shelby County Gone Wild]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Eastbound and Down: Shelby County Gone Wild}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Final Day of Carmacks Team: The Prequel to the Doom Movie]]|| {{PAGESINCAT: Final Day of Carmacks Team: The Prequel to the Doom Movie}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Freelancer: The Universe of Possibility]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Freelancer: The Universe of Possibility}} || # || -''Based off of the game
"Freelancer."''
|-
|[[Halo: Fucking Evolved]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Halo: Fucking Evolved}}|| # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Happy Fucking Games!]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Happy Fucking Games!}}|| # || -''Like the Hunger Games but you have sex instead of killing each other.''
|-
|[[iCarly: iAm Horny]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:iCarly: iAm Horny}} || # || -''Makes me want to die.''
|-
|[[In The Life Of: The Kane Chronicles]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:In The Life Of: The Kane Chronicles}} || # || -''Ever heard of the Percy Jackson series? This fanfiction is based off of a less popular series by the same author.''
|-
|[[Kim Possible Sex Adventure]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Kim Possible Sex Adventure}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[KPOP Love Story]] || {{PAGESINCAT:KPOP Love Story}} || # || -''A dating-sim esque story. Only a couple K-pop groups are written so far, and none of them very completely.''
|}

==Incest==
And step-incest too, I suppose.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Adventure Ace]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Adventure Ace}} || style="width: 20%"|father/daughter, Halloween || style="width: 50%"|-''Only enough pages to imply a direction. No sex written yet. Poor grammar.''
|-
|[[As A Family]] || {{PAGESINCAT:As A Family}} || brother/sister || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Daddy's College Adventures]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Daddy's College Adventures}} || father/daughter || -''(none)''
|-
|[[A family tale of corruption]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:A family tale of corruption}} || brother/sister, || -''Godawful writing.''
|-
|[[Keeping It In The Family]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Kiitf}} || brother/sister, voyeurism, masturbation || -''If you decide to dig this one out, character ages need adjustment''.
|}

==Sci-fi==
Alien tentacle monsters and girls in tight space suits. I also threw zombie apocalypses in here.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Alien Invasion]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Alien Invasion}} || style="width: 20%"|alien, abduction || style="width: 50%"|-''(none)''
|-
|[[Android Training]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Android Training}} || train || -''Only one page written, not a lot to go off of. Not good writing, but not unsalvageable.''
|-
|[[Another Beginning]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Another Beginning}} || space || -''Earthly apocalypse sends mankind fleeing to the stars.''
|-
|[[Attack upon the world]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Attack upon the world}} || alien, group || -''If you choose the male route, you get to make out with an alien chick as the world is ending. Choose the female route, and "Attack Upon the World" is merely a film you watch with your friends.''
|-
|[[Avoiding the Dead]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Avoiding the Dead}} || zombies || -''Has a few different setups for a pretty generic zombie-apocalypse story.''
|-
|[[Hentasy-Fi]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Hentasy-Fi}}|| fantasy || -''According to the first page of this stub, "This world is kinda a mix between Fantasy, Science-Fiction, and Hentai."''
|-
|★[[Hemlock, Mercenary From Hell]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Hemlock, Mercenary From Hell}} || bisexual || -''As much as the writing isn't perfect, I liked this stub. I would like to pick it up myself, but I can't tell what this character was supposed to be. A demon inter-dimensional traveler...? It's probably fanfic, but it doesn't have enough pages for me to discern.''
|-
|[[Lana the Bounty Hunter]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Lana the Bounty Hunter}} || # || -''Lana, a bounty hunter, has to travel into a town run by scoundrels to hunt a particularly valuable head. In this city, woman visitors (like herself) must comply with any request made by a male of the city (only murder and thievery are off the table) and she must wear a provocative "female uniform" supplied by the town. The idea isn't so bad, but I found the writing so far to be bad enough to make up for any merit the concept may have.''
|-
|[[left 4 sex|Left 4 sex]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Left 4 Sex}} || zombies, rape, straight, gay || -''Left 4 dead parody. Your health bar is a 'cum' meter, and once you're emptied of cum, you become a zombie. Kind of a smart idea; it forces the player to pick less sexy options if they don't want to 'die'. ''
|}

==Other==
Stories that don't quite fit into the other categories.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Abuse My Wife]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Abuse My Wife}} || style="width: 20%"|cuckold, abduction || style="width: 50%"|-''(none)''
|-
|[[Adventures of Jay]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Adventures of Jay}} || # || -''Some may say Jay's life is perfectly ordinary, but he knows otherwise (the "otherwise" part isn't written in yet).''
|-
|[[Adventures of Naughtiness (German)]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Adventures of Naughtiness}}|| (<font color="green">German/Deutsche</font>), toys || -''(none)''
|-
|[[An Akatsuki Party]] || {{PAGESINCAT:An Akatsuki Party}} || # || -''A game of hide-and-seek, where if you're found, you have to "snuggle" with your seeker for at least 3 minutes.''
|-
|[[Alexandras Summer Vacation]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Alexandras Summer Vacation}} || # || -''Debated putting this in "Fanfiction" or "Sci-Fi," but it doesn't really fit anywhere. I can't tell what's going on in this story.''
|-
|[[An Amazing Night]] || {{PAGESINCAT:An Amazing Night}} || toys || -''The first page is interesting, the rest is generic.''
|-
|[[The Amazing Race]] || {{PAGESINCAT:The Amazing Race}} || # || -''Funny redlink character options.''
|-
|[[Anxiety and sex]] ||{{PAGESINCAT:Anxiety and sex}} || shemale, masturbation || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Asa-Boy-Pervert| Asa, Boy Pervert]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Asa-Boy-Pervert}} || gay, exhibition, masturbation, small dick || -''Ages need adjustment.''
|-
|[[Award Night]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Award Night}} || # || -''Doesn't really belong in the "Adult" section.''
|-
|[[Calláte, Cariño (Under Construction)|Calláte, Cariño (Shut up, Honey)]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Calláte, Cariño (Under Construction)}} || # || -''You move from California to Puerto Rico to teach English at an all-girls school.''
|-
|[[Cannibal Adventure]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Cannibal Adventure}} || vore? || -''You and your ship full of beautiful women wreck on an island inhabited by female cannibals.''
|-
|[[Coming Home Early Has Benefits?!]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Coming Home Early Has Benefits?!}} || masturbation, toys || -''You catch your wife cheating on you with a dildo.''
|-
|[[Dark Mansion]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Dark Mansion}} || # || -''Just a title page, no narrative.''
|-
|[[Date Night - A Dating Sim]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Date Night - A Dating Sim}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[doctors]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Doctors}} || # || -''Ages need adjustment.''
|-
|[[Dog Tales]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Dog Tales}} || bestiality || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Double-Blind Desire]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Double-Blind Desire}} || mind control, drugs || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Drivers' Education]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Drivers' Education}} || exhibition, masturbation || -''18 year old slut in driver's ed looking for dick.''
|-
|★[[Erotic Adventures of a Gentleman Spy]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Erotic Adventures of a Gentleman Spy}} || bisexual, straight, gay || -''A Victorian era spy has a surprising number of sexual encounters. Hard to tag this one-- plenty of gay sex, but setups for straight stuff too. The player character, however, is sexually attracted to both regardless of reader choice. Grammar is good, and tone feels fitting.''
|-
|[[Errands]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Errands}} || # ||-''(none)''
|-
|[[The Ever Changing World In Which I Live]] || {{PAGESINCAT:The Ever Changing World In Which I Live}}|| # || -''The kind of CYOA that has a 'kill yourself' and 'restart' button on almost every page.''
|-
|[[Everything goes including your clothes]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Everything goes including your clothes}} || # || -''Strip trivia. For every wrong answer you lose an article of clothing.''
|-
|[[Forced: Audrey]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Forced: Audrey}} || rape || -''You know, after reading so many of these, I've noticed a common character archetype. This is the epitome of that archetype.''
|-
|[[Gray Matter]]||{{PAGESINCAT:Gray Matter}}|| # || -''Has "compelling" plot twists like the room changing shape.''
|-
|[[For Fuck's Sake]]||{{PAGESINCAT:For Fuck's Sake}}|| gay || -''Straight and incest potential in the redlinks. But it isn't written yet.''
|-
|[[High School Story]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:High School Story}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[Hit And Run]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Hit And Run}} ||#|| -''Survive a hit and run.''
|-
|[[Ideal]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Ideal}} || #|| -''Build your ideal girlfriend (your only choice is one of three hair colors. If only real women were so simple...)
|-
|[[Item stories.]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Item stories.}} || # || -''Claims to be a "test of intellect."''
|-
|[[Kayla's Adventures: Party]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Kayla's Story: Party}} || # || -''(none)''
|-
|[[A Year of Humiliation]] || {{PAGESINCAT:A Year of Humiliation}} || # || -''Innocent girl who's "saving it for marriage" is forced into various suggestive situations.''
|}

==Fetish==
I had these stories sorted into the other categories, but I felt that they deserved a home of their own. All of these are acquired tastes, though "fetish" may not be the right term.

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:90%;"
|-
! Story !! Pages !! Tags !! Notes
|-
|style="width: 15%"|[[Accidental Piss Lovers]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Accidental Piss Lovers}} || style="width: 20%"|watersports, anal ||style="width: 50%"| -''(none)''
|-
|[[Archie comics vore]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Archie comics vore}} || vore, mild scat, shrinking, fanfiction || -''People eat you (one of the Archie characters) until you get digested.''
|-
|[[Dementa]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:Dementa}} || rape, necro, snuff || -''In [[User:Azincourt|Azincourt]]'s own words, "[A] sexualized survival horror story[.]" Pretty heavy stuff. --Actually near completion. Only found one red link, so any adopter wouldn't need to write much to finish this one out.''
|-
|[[The Dentist Appointment of Urethral Agony]] || {{PAGESINCAT:The Dentist Appointment of Urethral Agony}} || necro || -''No urethral insertion yet. And no dentist appointment.''
|-
|[[A job at the bodypainting place]]|| {{PAGESINCAT:A job at the bodypainting place}} || paint || -''Somebody really loves body painting. By no means a bad premise for a smut filled CYOS, but the execution ruined it.''
|}

Get in line to kiss the redhead

Pickles — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:33:38 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'You step in line to kiss the busty redhead. The male attendant looks disappointed for a moment before giving you a wry smile. "I can't blame you, Libby's pretty hot." The dark ha…'

You step in line to kiss the busty redhead. The male attendant looks disappointed for a moment before giving you a wry smile. "I can't blame you, Libby's pretty hot." The dark haired man looks over at Libby in the seat next to him, who's still making out with the teenage boy. "We're only supposed to give a peck, but Libby can't help herself."

Libby finally breaks her kiss with the boy and tells him something you can't hear. He seems a little disoriented for a moment, then laughs and shakes his head before walking away. The busty red-head wipes off her kiss-swollen lips before looking up at you and smiling.

"Hello!" she says. "One dollar for one kiss, no refunds or exchanges!"

You:
*[[Give her a dollar]]
*[[Ask if you can have a turn at the booth]]
*[[Ask if she offers any other services]]

Or:
*[[Go after the teenage boy]]
*[[Change your mind and get a kiss from the male kissing booth attendant]]

{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Step up to the Kissing Booth

Pickles — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:14:54 GMT

Pickles: Created page with 'The dark-haired man working at the booth gives you a charming smile as you walk over, but the redhead beside him is so busy with her customer that she doesn't acknowledge you. Th…'

The dark-haired man working at the booth gives you a charming smile as you walk over, but the redhead beside him is so busy with her customer that she doesn't acknowledge you. The male worker is quite attractive, but watching the redhead kiss makes you wonder if you should wait in line for her instead.

You:
*[[Get in line to kiss the redhead]]
*[[Go up to the male kissing booth attendant]]
*[[Keep watching the redhead and her teenage customer make out]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

Visit the gaming booths

Pickles — Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:34:47 GMT

Pickles: changed a few of the red links and added some text

You look around at the different gaming booths. None of them seem all too busy today.

The kissing booth is double-wide and has two workers: a toned dark-haired man sitting on the left and a busty red-head seated to the right. It's hard for you to see much of the red-head as she's currently making out with the teenage boy in front of her, but other than him, neither worker has a line in front of them.

The ring-toss is abandoned save for the very bored looking man who must be the game's operator. He looks a little old to be running a carnival game, but he's attractive even with the bored scowl on his face. Many different prizes hang around the tent: stuffed animals, cotton candy, and a slimy mass that looks like it might be alive.

A young girl with a bright smile mans the shooting gallery. One BB gun is already in use by a man at the booth, but there's a second gun beside him if you wanted it.

Which booth do you want to visit first?
*[[Step up to the Kissing Booth|The Kissing Booth]]
*[[Go to the Ring Toss Booth|The Ring Toss Booth]]
*[[Go to the Shooting Gallery|The Shooting Gallery]]

{{SexRompStatus|Location=''[[The Carnival]]''|Health=Horny & Hormonal|MP=0|Level=4}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

User talk:TheFreddyFazbear54

Pickles — Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:46:36 GMT

Pickles: /* Interstellar Desire: WIP stories probably don't belong on the Main Page */ new section

{{warn1}}--[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 19:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

== Interstellar Desire: WIP stories probably don't belong on the Main Page ==

I'm moving your story [[The Interstellar Desire]] off of the main page and onto [[All Adult Stories/I]]. Generally, short or unfinished works don't go on the main page. Feel free to move it back once your story has reached 300+ pages (or completion).

Also, I noticed another story with a similar concept started not too long ago: [[Offworld Romance]] by [[User:AndreiVem]]. I think he's abandoned it, so if you want to pick up where he left off there's no one to stop you (though you could leave him a message just in case). He's only provided a basic premise so you'd be able to take the story whatever direction you choose. I like having a base to start out on if I'm going to write, but everybody's different! Do continue on The Interstellar Desire if you're already committed to it.

Have a good one!--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 22:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Template:AdultSampleStories

Pickles — Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:27:57 GMT

Pickles: Undo revision 353139 by TheFreddyFazbear54 (Talk) -> A short WIP story probably doesn't belong on the main page.

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Smutty Sex Romp]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Smutty Sex Romp}} Pages|notes=<font color="orange">←Currently Featured!</font> {{Public}}<b style="color:red;">-For experienced writers with a firm grasp of grammar and spelling only. Any contributions with poor grammar will be immediately deleted.</b>}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Rampage]] |pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Rampage}} Pages|notes=<font color="orange">←Currently Featured!</font> {{Public}}<b style="color:green;">-but any contributions with poor grammar will be immediately deleted.</b>}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Star Wars: The Complete Erotic Saga]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Star Wars: The Complete Erotic Saga}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[+Infinity]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:+Infinity}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[High School]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:High School}} Pages|notes={{Public}} <b style="color:green;">Please be creative and disgusting and ridiculous. I wouldn't even mind this turning into a "No One Should Read These."</b>}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Dungeons and Dragons]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Dungeons and Dragons}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Birthday Bottom Boy's Blackout Bar-night]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Birthday Bottom Boy's Blackout Bar-night}} Pages|notes={{DNE}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Good son]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Good son}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

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{{Front Page Link|link=[[Hot and Horny]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Hot and Horny}} Pages|notes={{Public}} <b style="color:green;">Please edit!</b>}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[You Are An Orc]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:You Are An Orc}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[The Humiliation of Katie]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:The Humiliation of Katie}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Oops! You're Naked!]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Oops! You're Naked!}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[The Devils Daughter|The Devil's Daughter]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:The Devil's Daughter}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Ongoing Story]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Ongoing Story}} Pages|notes=}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[The End of the World]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:The End of the World}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[The life of a medieval princess|The Life of a Medieval Princess]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:The life of a medieval princess}} Pages|notes={{Public}} <b style="color:green;">- but please read the [[Princess Editor's Guide]].</b>}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[College Girls]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:College Girls}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Blackmailed]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Blackmail}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Girl Scout Camp]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Girl Scout Camp}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Interracial Extravaganza]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:Interracial Extravaganza}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

{{Front Page Link|link=[[Game of Thrones Fantasy]]|pagecount={{PAGESINCAT:ASOIAFSexyEdition}} Pages|notes={{Public}}}}

<noInclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noInclude>

All Adult Stories/I

Pickles — Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:26:52 GMT

Pickles:

{{All_Adult_Stories_List}}

==I==
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="width:100%"
|-
! Story !! Number Of Pages !! Notes
|-
|[[I Can't Help It]] || {{PAGESINCAT: I Can't Help It}} || {{Private}}
|-
|[[Icarly: Iwant sex|iCarly: iWant Sex]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Icarly: Iwant sex}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[ICarly: sex adventure]] || {{PAGESINCAT:ICarly: sex adventure}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[If Pop Culture Characters Were Punished]]|| WIP || {{public}}
|-
|[[I'll Be Gentle...]] || {{PAGESINCAT:I'll Be Gentle...}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Im just a boy|I'm just a boy]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Im just a boy}} || {{Public}} || {{Pit watchlist|edited=6 March 2015|pages=14}}
|-
|[[Important News]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Important News}} || {{DNE}} {{Private}}
|-
|[[Impregnator]] || {{PAGESINCAT:"Impregnator"}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[im Verlies]] || {{PAGESINCAT: im Verlies}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[In Our Bath]] || {{PAGESINCAT:In Our Bath}} || {{Private}} || {{Pit watchlist|edited=9/9/2013|pages=15}}
|-
|[["In space no one can hear you breed"|In Space No One Can Hear You Breed]] || {{PAGESINCAT:"In space no one can hear you breed"}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Incest Seduction]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Incest Seduction}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Incubus]] (Bisexual Pirate Fantasy) || {{PAGESINCAT:Incubus}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Indiana Jones]]|| WIP || {{public}}
|-
|[[Inevitable]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Inevitable}} || {{Public}} || {{Pit watchlist|edited=6 March 2015|pages=4}}
|-
|[[+Infinity]] || {{PAGESINCAT:+Infinity}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Interracial Extravaganza]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Interracial Extravaganza}} || {{Public}} (Any editing welcome, make all stories about interracial sex.)
|-
|[[Invisible]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Invisible}} || {{Public}}
|-
|[[Invisible Boy]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Invisible Boy}} || {{Public}} || {{Pit watchlist|edited=1 July 2015|pages=17}}
|-
|[[Island of Dr. Monroe "Breeding Edition"]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Island of Dr. Monroe "Breeding Edition"}} || {{Private}}
|-
|[[Insectoid]] || {{PAGESINCAT:Insectoid}} || {{Private}} For now
|-
|[[The Interstellar Desire]] || {{PAGESINCAT: The Interstellar Desire}} || {{Private}} <b style="color:green;">- Any edits must be authorised by me and be of a decent level of grammar. This will be changed once the main story is complete.</b>
|-
|[[It was just another day]] || {{PAGESINCAT:It was just another day}} || {{Private}}
|-
|[[It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas]] || {{PAGESINCAT:It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas}} || {{DNE}} {{Private}}

[[Category:System Pages]]
[[Category:Adult Stories]]

User talk:Nightmaregames

Pickles — Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:00:03 GMT

Pickles: Some small edits to Fetish

== Some small edits to Fetish ==

I added a category to [[Fetish]] and changed the name of the linked page (Let's get started). Feel free to change the link back, but it's nice to have pages named this way (having the story name [Fetish] and a forward slash [/] before the page name makes it easier to avoid linking to already created pages [and each page links back to the title page of the story, which can also be handy). Whatever you decide to do about page titles, please include a category on every page. I put one at the bottom of the title page for Fetish, and in the editor the category looks like this:

<nowiki>[[Category:Fetish]]</nowiki>

Categories allow you to organize all of your story pages by automatically linking any page added to the category (if that makes sense? I recommend checking out [[:Category:Smutty Sex Romp|the Smutty Sex Romp category page]] to see what I mean). This makes it possible to keep a running tally on the number of pages in your story and makes it easier for readers to determine which story pages are from (categorized pages have their category listed on the bottom). For more tips on story/wiki formatting, see [[Basic page format]] along with the rest of the [[Tutorial]].

Welcome to the site! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 15:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Fetish

Pickles — Sun, 26 Jul 2020 14:37:18 GMT

Pickles: Added category, changed title of linked page

This is what I like calling my Fetish Land. A place where I can explore my fetishes and not be judged. Strap yourself in, this will get weird real fast.

*[[Fetish/Let's get started|Let's get started]]

[[Category:Fetish]]

User talk:Emotionless

Pickles — Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:44:20 GMT

Pickles: /* A Normal Working Day */ new section

== A Normal Working Day ==

Are you sure you want to abandon this story completely? You put in a great deal of work to just delete it from the All Adult Stories page and leave the rest orphaned. You could move it to the Pit of Abandoned Stories if you'd rather not continue it now. Maybe someone else will pick it up or you'll change your mind.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 21:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Retsuka

Pickles — Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:29:34 GMT

Pickles: The Goddess and the Demon

== The Goddess and the Demon ==

I'm not sure if you're still looking for it after all these years, but if you haven't and want to take a trip down memory lane, I found a copy on Internet Archive <nowiki>(web.archive.org/web/20120503100133/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5119512/1/The_Goddess_and_the_Demon)</nowiki>. The first two chapters are there for sure, but I haven't looked through the rest yet. Hopefully it's a complete copy (although it's possible you've already found it anyway!).

Enjoy!--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 21:29, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Anedwcan

Pickles — Fri, 24 Jul 2020 04:09:01 GMT

Pickles: /* Seashell Bay */ new section

== edit ==
If you are going to contribute to Smutty Sex Romp, make sure that the choices are ALWAYS your character's choices. It's Choose YOUR Own Adventure, never Choose His or Choose Hers. Also, page titles do not end with strange characters like IN. And learn how to punctuate with dialogue before adding any more pages. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 00:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I will not restore pages that do not fit in my story. If you failed to notice the warning on the Main Page that unacceptable contributions will be immediately deleted from Smutty Sex Romp, then I suggest you read the warning again. I'm not going as far as some authors and stating that no one else may add to my writing, but I will remove anything that fails to meet my approval. If you are not comfortable with this, then choose a different story to add to or start one of your own. I promise not to delete anything you write in a story you start yourself. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 16:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

You're making some fine contributions now, but I think you should read [[Punctuation with dialogue]], because you're consistently using periods instead of commas where your dialogue should be connected to the dialogue tag following it. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 22:46, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Again, please, keep Smutty Sex Romp choices in second person. Choose YOUR Own Adventure. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 17:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there some reason why you don't use correct punctuation in page titles? You correctly punctuate dialogue within the pages themselves, but always leave out the commas in the page titles. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 16:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:Sorry about that. I guess I'm rusty. English is not my native language after all. [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 16:23, 26 January 2014 (UTC). Guess there can't be too many commas... [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 19:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

==Remember==
Some writers like having 'if you did this previously, then you can click here' type structures in their stories, but I'm not one of them. I'd like to keep Smutty Sex Romp free of that sort of thing. But thanks for asking first, and keep up the good writing. I like what you've been doing. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 23:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Please, in Rampage, just like Smutty Sex Romp, make sure that the choices are ALWAYS your character's choices. It's Choose YOUR Own Adventure, never Choose His or Choose Hers. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 17:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

:Ah, no prob - I just noticed deviations from this in some places, and thought the policy was more relaxed in Rampage than Smutty. Thank you for improving my pages! [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 23:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

==colloquialisms==
I agree that characters don't always speak in a grammatically correct fashion, and so grammatical standards for dialogue are much looser. Without a specific example, I can't say if you've found a case that should have just been left alone or if it really did need correction. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 16:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

== Sleep Fantasy writing ==

I read the summaries of what you're writing, as well as what you've added so far. Just wanted to say you're following my intent pretty well, notably on the non-consent areas. I'm shooting to make the portions where you go back and pack some clothes be more of a consensual, fun stay at where ever the reader chooses to go, whereas going as you are leads to non-consensual trips. Dire/deadly ending are acceptable during escape sections, due to exposure and poor decisions, though I'd like there to be a happier end to them as well. I'm probably going to add some public-exposure type scenarios into the nude portion, as well, for both the consensual and non-consensual routes. If you have questions, feel free to ask them, and add away as you see fit. [[User:jealco|jealco]] 11:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, your writings are very well written. Feel free to flesh out my portions if there's spots you feel are lacking.
: Sure thing - it's your original ideas! [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 11:24, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

== The Grubby Construction Site ==

I'm kind of curious as to where you were planning to head with the portion where the reader ends up stuck in the barbed wire.
: Dunno, really. Sometime you just act upon an image in your head, with no long-term planning. Sure, "erotic death" is the obvious bad (good?) ending, but I'm fully willing to see what other editors can do with her predicament... [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 16:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

I've got a pretty good idea of where the inside of the shed can lead. That portion has great potential as a homage to Arthur Saxon's ''A Funny Thing Happened...'' works. I'm looking forward to when you continue those lines. Send me a message if I can help in any way. [[User:jealco|jealco]] 11:55, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
: Have you examined the poster outside the shed...? The hint is far from obvious, but it's there... ;-) Personally, I'm not as specifically into poo as Mr Saxon, but ''A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Job Interview'' is still a very fascinating text... [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 16:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

: So far, I've set up a kind of gatekeeping choice: I would not proceed in a true saxonian style if the reader reacts to the scene with horror or disgust - a true Saxonian heroine would be indifferent if not intrigued... [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 16:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Mainly, I encourage you to go for it! There is very little you can do that I would consider "sabotage". In the uncommon event I feel an editor changes direction too abruptly, I favor solving it by inserting an intermediate passage, ideally giving the reader the power to choose. (For instance, the way I edited Cabin in the Woods after perceiving your goals to be different from Teejays) [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 16:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

== Female in the Sewers ==

I don't know if you're psychic or what, but you ninja'ed in and put some awesome stuff in there. It's funny, because I sat there thinking Anedwcan would have some fun with a female protagonist in the sewers. And props on including the rat again. Male this time, or still female?

Question, though: Is it just insects in the water, or something more? I'm working out different scenarios in my head, and I would like to keep the sewers somewhat similar. [[User:jealco|jealco]] 13:20, 10 February 2013 (PST)
:The crate in the sewer is genius - it provides 1) a mystery 2) a challenge that 3) keeps the protagonist busy and most importantly, 4) it's a saxonian scenario that doesn't just feel like a carbon copy of his own stuff.
:Glad you approve. Didn't notice it was your edit and wanted to establish that retrieving the crate isn't automatic (at least not down my branches) and to get a few juicy hooks in there before somebody tamed it all down :)
:As for me, I wouldn't mind focusing on different stuff down each main decision branch. All to keep in focus, to keep it simple, keep the reader curious, etc. (Keeping things similar is all good but don't restrict your writing over it. Making things inconsistent without a good story reason, on the other hand, I try to avoid.)
:So put anything (and anyone) you like in the water. Myself, I probably don't need 'pedes where there is 'roaches and so on, but feel free to mix it all up if your scenario needs it. Remember, it's a wiki, anything goes, and there's always new branches to be made.
:As for the crate contents, I have a few ideas as to what it might contain, but you should go ahead and reveal whatever you had in mind. If I still need "my" stuff in there for a particular decision branch, again, I hope you're cool me replacing the crate contents for that particular scene.
:As for the rats: What other rat? Are you talking about the rat girl? I didn't intend these rats to be humanoids... (but again, there's no ownership of wiki pages, so knock yourself out)
:[[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 22:05, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::I never quite thought of it like that, but, yeah, it is a phenomenal item. I actually didn't have any plans for the contents of the crate. I was waiting to see who else would toss some stuff in there (which is painful, sometimes, since it seems you and I have done a lot of the writing for SSR for a while now). I'm also quite interested in how our protagonist gets to that crate. I may toss some ideas at a few of the points you haven't written in yet.
::Generic rats? Saxonian again, if you've ''Connie's Dream Home''. Lots of possibilities there. Basically, knock yourself out. I've always written these with a hope that someone else will latch onto some of my ideas and take them in new and crazy directions.
::[[User:Jealco|Jealco]] 14:16, 10 February 2013 (PST)

==other sites==
At this time, I don't know of other sites for uncensored stories, but I'm beginning to think it's time to look for one. This site has become frustrating to work with. I'm still hopeful that things can be corrected here so pages actually load in a reasonable amount of time, without having to make multiple load attempts, but I agree that it isn't looking good. If I come across a good alternative site, I'll let you know. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 11:52, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

I finally decided to stick my nose back in here (I've been doing a bit of writing on another site), and saw you were at it again. I might have to start writing here, again. The party hostess and bus storyline's you've written have got me thinking again. [[User:jealco|jealco]] 22:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

== Reluctant Maid ==
are you still going to work on this?
just that you have a very complete set but set only.
--[[User:Borkenone|Borkenone]] 16:49, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

"Work as a sporting event party hostess"

I love your story!
And I hope that one day, you complete it!

--[[User:Complex|Complex]] 18:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

==Relocating==

I do think of relocating SSR sometimes, since this site isn’t as stable as it should be. I haven’t chosen another site yet, but I have saved a lot of text offline. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 18:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== CHYOA ==

Eh, the site has a basic structure that allows for custom variables and IF statements, which is a tad complicated, so its not surprising to find actual game mode stories harder to find. I assure you that they do exist. In fact, my stories over there are intended to be able to take advantage of the capabilities of Game Mode (specifically 7 Days of Incest, which is an adaptation/remake/expansion of Three Sisters RM from this site).

As far as other stories with only one choice, yes thats fairly common. Just because the site has support for branching stories, doesn't mean that someone HAS to make their story branching. While there are plenty of linear stories on the site, there are just as many branching stories that exist out there. In fact, they usually are quite popular. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 13:55, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

== Seashell Bay ==

Did you ever end up making [[Seashell Bay]] into a Twine game? I would love to play it if you have.

Also, do you write anywhere else? I like your contributions here; you write well, and you have tons of great story ideas. I'd like to read your newer stuff, wherever it may be.

--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 04:09, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

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