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FFL: Reverted edit of 90210, changed back to last version by Osmose

FFL — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:28:47 GMT

Reverted edit of 90210, changed back to last version by Osmose

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-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+	== Noob vs Newbie: the Common Misconception ==
		+	On Charas, and indeed on most forums, there is a certain disrespect for newer members or people with less knowledge of the forum. A few young egotistical kids that have no respect for any rules or standards of the forum get on everyone's nerves. These people get labelled as noobs (or n00bs). In short, a noob is someone who doesn't have a clue, much common sense, or any respect for anyone or anything on the forum.

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	Not everyone has this attitude while joining the forum of course. Newbies, newcomers to the forum, still don't really understand what is going on but aren't a jerk about it. It's not that hard to tell the difference between the two.

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	The following are common descprtions of noob and newbie behavior and how they compare.

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+	* Noobs post without THOROUGHLY understanding the rules, expecting to know them already. Newbies may post without knowing the rules, but when said rules are pointed out, they generally read them and understand the basics.
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	* Noobs claim superiority over those who clearly are superior of them. Newbies are usually too lost or uncomfortable to get involved much at the beginning.

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+	* In comic threads, Noobs plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks. Newbies generally don't and just compliment the comics they like.
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	* Usually Noobs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that's always talked about. One example would be having Sephiroth in their name and/or having Cloud in their avatar and/or signature. (Sephiroth Rocks being a notable exception)

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	Everyone is a newbie at one point. It's not really a bad thing. Being a newbie just means you're new to the forum. Once some time passes and these people get comfortable the label goes away.

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+	Being a noob is an attitude. Being a newbie is measure of time. The two labels are only partially related. Some new people avoid being noobs because they aren't insulting or egotistical. Other noobs stay noobs even long after they're no longer considered newbies simply because they keep the attitude of being a jerk.
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]~~

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+	==Mistreatment of Noobs and Newbies==
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+	Unfortunately all newbies suffer under the shadow of the noobs. Noobs leave bitter memories in the minds of older members and they view every newcomer with some suspicion even if those people have done absolutely nothing wrong. The mistreatment of newbies is a major problem on Charas and is largely blamed for a slowing down of newer membership.

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	Noobs are a different story. Although this article may lead you to believe all those labeled as "noobs" are free game, this is hardly the case. The only group of people larger than noobs are the people who hate them and feel it's their responsibility to insult these people to either shape them up or, ideally, make them leave.

-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+	In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+

-	~~[[Image:phantomo212~~.~~jpg]]~~	+	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable.
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
-	~~<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>~~	+
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-	~~<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>~~	+
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90210 at 02:16, 6 September 2007

90210 — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:16:16 GMT

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-	~~== Noob vs Newbie: the Common Misconception ==~~	+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
-	On Charas, and indeed on most forums, there is a certain disrespect for newer members or people with less knowledge of the forum. A few young egotistical kids that have no respect for any rules or standards of the forum get on everyone's nerves. These people get labelled as noobs (or n00bs). In short, a noob is someone who doesn't have a clue, much common sense, or any respect for anyone or anything on the forum.	+

-	Not everyone has this attitude while joining the forum of course. Newbies, newcomers to the forum, still don't really understand what is going on but aren't a jerk about it. It's not that hard to tell the difference between the two.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	~~The following are common descprtions of noob and newbie behavior and how they compare~~.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

-	* Noobs post without THOROUGHLY understanding the rules, expecting to know them already. Newbies may post without knowing the rules, but when said rules are pointed out, they generally read them and understand the basics.	+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	* Noobs claim superiority over those who clearly are superior of them. Newbies are usually too lost or uncomfortable to get involved much at the beginning.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

-	* In comic threads, Noobs plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks. Newbies generally don't and just compliment the comics they like.	+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	* Usually Noobs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that's always talked about. ~~One example would be having Sephiroth in their name and/or having Cloud in their avatar and/or signature. (Sephiroth Rocks being a notable exception)~~	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	~~Everyone is a newbie at one point. It's not really a bad thing. Being a newbie just means you're new to the forum. Once some time passes and these people get comfortable the label goes away~~.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

-	Being a noob is an attitude. Being a newbie is measure of time. The two labels are only partially related. Some new people avoid being noobs because they aren't insulting or egotistical. Other noobs stay noobs even long after they're no longer considered newbies simply because they keep the attitude of being a jerk.	+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

-	~~==Mistreatment of Noobs and Newbies==~~	+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
-	Unfortunately all newbies suffer under the shadow of the noobs. Noobs leave bitter memories in the minds of older members and they view every newcomer with some suspicion even if those people have done absolutely nothing wrong. The mistreatment of newbies is a major problem on Charas and is largely blamed for a slowing down of newer membership.	+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	Noobs are a different story. Although this article may lead you to believe all those labeled as "noobs" are free game, this is hardly the case. The only group of people larger than noobs are the people who hate them and feel it's their responsibility to insult these people to either shape them up or, ideally, make them leave.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]

-	In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.	+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>

-	~~Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable~~.	+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
		+
		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
		+
		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	[[Image:phantomo212.jpg]]
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
		+	<h1>CHARAS WILL BE DESTROYED!</H1>
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		+	<h1>LONG LIVE THE LULZ!</H1>
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Osmose: /* Mistreatment of Noobs and Newbies */

Osmose — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:03:17 GMT

Mistreatment of Noobs and Newbies

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	In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.		In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.

-	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable~~. The fact that the noobs are almost BEGGING people to mock them doesn't help the problem either~~.	+	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable.

SaiKar at 16:24, 6 February 2007

SaiKar — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:24:38 GMT

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-	== ~~N00b and newb~~: the ~~common misconception~~ ==	+	== Noob vs Newbie: the Common Misconception ==
		+	On Charas, and indeed on most forums, there is a certain disrespect for newer members or people with less knowledge of the forum. A few young egotistical kids that have no respect for any rules or standards of the forum get on everyone's nerves. These people get labelled as noobs (or n00bs). In short, a noob is someone who doesn't have a clue, much common sense, or any respect for anyone or anything on the forum.

-	~~As stated before, a n00b is one without knowledge~~ of ~~a forum~~. ~~However~~, ~~some members join claiming themselves "n00bs" off~~ the ~~bat~~. ~~This is wrong in~~ the ~~fact that Newb stands for something entirely different. A Newb is a new member of a forum~~.	+	Not everyone has this attitude while joining the forum of course. Newbies, newcomers to the forum, still don't really understand what is going on but aren't a jerk about it. It's not that hard to tell the difference between the two.

-	~~To further clarify, one can have been a member for a year, yet still be n00b in the fact that they repeatably post spam and other nonsense.~~

		+	The following are common descprtions of noob and newbie behavior and how they compare.

-	~~== Reasons for being a n00b ==~~	+	* Noobs post without THOROUGHLY understanding the rules, expecting to know them already. Newbies may post without knowing the rules, but when said rules are pointed out, they generally read them and understand the basics.

-	~~The following~~ are ~~common ways members can be considered n00bs:~~	+	* Noobs claim superiority over those who clearly are superior of them. Newbies are usually too lost or uncomfortable to get involved much at the beginning.

-	1. ~~They post without THOROUGHLY understanding~~ the ~~rules, expecting to know them already~~.	+	* In comic threads, Noobs plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks. Newbies generally don't and just compliment the comics they like.

-	2. ~~They claim superiority over those who clearly are superior of them~~.	+	* Usually Noobs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that's always talked about. One example would be having Sephiroth in their name and/or having Cloud in their avatar and/or signature. (Sephiroth Rocks being a notable exception)

-	~~3. In comic threads, they plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks.~~

-	4. ~~Usually n00bs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that~~'s ~~always talked about~~. ~~One example would be having Sephiroth in their name~~ and~~/or having Cloud in their avatar and/or signature~~. ~~(Sephiroth Rocks being a notable exception)~~	+	Everyone is a newbie at one point. It's not really a bad thing. Being a newbie just means you're new to the forum. Once some time passes and these people get comfortable the label goes away.

-	==Mistreatment of Newbies==	+	Being a noob is an attitude. Being a newbie is measure of time. The two labels are only partially related. Some new people avoid being noobs because they aren't insulting or egotistical. Other noobs stay noobs even long after they're no longer considered newbies simply because they keep the attitude of being a jerk.
-	Although this article may lead you to believe all those labeled as "~~n00bs~~" are free game ~~and should be insulted at every opportunity~~, this is hardly the case. The only group of people larger than ~~"n00bs"~~ are the people who hate them and feel it's their responsibility to insult these people to either shape them up or, ideally, make them leave.	+
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		+	==Mistreatment of Noobs and Newbies==
		+	Unfortunately all newbies suffer under the shadow of the noobs. Noobs leave bitter memories in the minds of older members and they view every newcomer with some suspicion even if those people have done absolutely nothing wrong. The mistreatment of newbies is a major problem on Charas and is largely blamed for a slowing down of newer membership.
		+
		+	Noobs are a different story. Although this article may lead you to believe all those labeled as "noobs" are free game, this is hardly the case. The only group of people larger than noobs are the people who hate them and feel it's their responsibility to insult these people to either shape them up or, ideally, make them leave.

	In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.		In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.

-	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable.	+	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable. The fact that the noobs are almost BEGGING people to mock them doesn't help the problem either.

Admin at 03:10, 6 February 2007

Admin — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:10:48 GMT

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-	~~Every so often, Charas gets a few and they always get the hint and leave (if not, we've got Meiscool).~~	+
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	== N00b and newb: the common misconception ==		== N00b and newb: the common misconception ==

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Admin — Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:10:19 GMT

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FFL2and3rocks at 23:03, 20 January 2007

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	== N00b and newb: the common misconception ==		== N00b and newb: the common misconception ==
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	As stated before, a n00b is one without knowledge of a forum. However, some members join claiming themselves "n00bs" off the bat. This is wrong in the fact that Newb stands for something entirely different. A Newb is a new member of a forum.		As stated before, a n00b is one without knowledge of a forum. However, some members join claiming themselves "n00bs" off the bat. This is wrong in the fact that Newb stands for something entirely different. A Newb is a new member of a forum.
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	== Reasons for being a n00b ==		== Reasons for being a n00b ==
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	The following are common ways members can be considered n00bs:		The following are common ways members can be considered n00bs:

Osmose at 20:50, 18 January 2007

Osmose — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:50:50 GMT

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	3. In comic threads, they plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks.		3. In comic threads, they plead for cameos, despite only being a member for 2 weeks.

-	4. Usually n00bs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that's always talked about. One example ~~wouldbe~~ having Sephiroth in their name and/or having ~~a cloudin~~ their avatar and/or signature. (Sephiroth Rocks ~~is exempt :P~~)	+	4. Usually n00bs try to be cool by imitating other members or mentioning something that's always talked about. One example would be having Sephiroth in their name and/or having Cloud in their avatar and/or signature. (Sephiroth Rocks being a notable exception)

		+	==Mistreatment of Newbies==
		+	Although this article may lead you to believe all those labeled as "n00bs" are free game and should be insulted at every opportunity, this is hardly the case. The only group of people larger than "n00bs" are the people who hate them and feel it's their responsibility to insult these people to either shape them up or, ideally, make them leave.

-	~~Someone else finish~~ this ~~page~~, I have to go for ~~now~~.	+	In the minority, however, are people who believe that all new people should be treated with just as much respect as older members. They see the flaming of these people as cruel and unnecessary. The idea is this: At one point in everyone's life, they were inexperienced with the internet. They didn't know the proper way to act online and simply wanted to have fun on the internet. Instead of driving potential users away, these few people believe that newbies should be pointed towards the rules and encouraged to shape up, rather than berated for their mistake.
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		+	Sadly, the number of people dedicated to helping newcomers to the website is too small to combat the excessively large amount of people who think their ridicule is acceptable.

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X marks the ed — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:50:11 GMT

Reasons for being an00b

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X marks the ed — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:49:30 GMT

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