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	Methodism has full of errors and false teachings. Their doctrines are not of Christ, the same as the doctrine of Catholicism.		Methodism has full of errors and false teachings. Their doctrines are not of Christ, the same as the doctrine of Catholicism.

-	~~pAoMTN Great~~, ~~thanks for sharing this blog~~.~~Thanks Again~~. ~~Keep writing~~.	+	== Religious Doctrines ==
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		+	''God: Trinitarian Father, Son and Holy Spirit''
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		+	That's one truth we can agree.
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		+	''Sacraments: Baptism, Communion.''
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		+	Communion is observed through Jewish theology of the Old Testament. Baptism is practiced from the New Testament. Methodism has got its' baptism practice all wrong.
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		+	''Salvation: Assurance of Salvation, Saved by Grace through Faith, Christian Perfection.''
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		+	Salvation is accepted by repentance through the blood of Jesus. Christians are not that perfect.
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		+	''Scriptures: 66 books, supernaturally inspired, Sola Fide—Methodists insist that reason is needed to read and interpret scripture as well as determine Christian witness.''
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		+	Sola Fide is Latin meaning "faith alone". James 2:14-26 clearly states that faith without works is dead. We can't please God if we have faith without works.
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		+	''Dogmatic Origins: Sola Scriptura, doctrines vary even within some denominations; Methodists say they are more concerned with "deeds not creeds". It should be emphasized that rigorous doctrines and dogmas can not be applied to Methodism as a whole.''
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		+	Methodists focus on their own works rather than God and His True Word. Sola Scriptura is Latin means "scripture alone". A doctrine that is taught in protestantism is considered bibliolotry meaning "bible worship". Should we worship our bibles? No. we are to worship God and Him alone.
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		+	''Church: "A Methodist is one who has the love of God shed abroad in his life by the Holy Ghost given unto him. One who loves the Lord his God with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his mind, and with all his strength. God is the joy of his heart and the desire of his soul." –John Wesley''
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		+	John Wesley may know we are to Love the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. But what about The Son? He sounds like a Muslim as if God had no son. And why doesn't God give us joy?

	== Theological Beliefs ==		== Theological Beliefs ==

192.162.19.21: pAoMTN Great, thanks for sharing this blog.Thanks Again. Keep writing.

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pAoMTN Great, thanks for sharing this blog.Thanks Again. Keep writing.

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	Methodism has full of errors and false teachings. Their doctrines are not of Christ, the same as the doctrine of Catholicism.		Methodism has full of errors and false teachings. Their doctrines are not of Christ, the same as the doctrine of Catholicism.

-	~~== Religious Doctrines ==~~	+	pAoMTN Great, thanks for sharing this blog.Thanks Again. Keep writing.
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-	~~''God: Trinitarian Father~~, ~~Son and Holy Spirit''~~	+
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-	~~That's one truth we can agree~~.	+
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-	~~''Sacraments: Baptism, Communion.''~~	+
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-	~~Communion is observed through Jewish theology of the Old Testament. Baptism is practiced from the New Testament. Methodism has got its' baptism practice all wrong.~~	+
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-	~~''Salvation: Assurance of Salvation, Saved by Grace through Faith, Christian Perfection.''~~	+
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-	~~Salvation is accepted by repentance through the blood of Jesus. Christians are not that perfect.~~	+
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-	~~''Scriptures: 66 books, supernaturally inspired, Sola Fide—Methodists insist that reason is needed to read and interpret scripture as well as determine Christian witness.''~~	+
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-	~~Sola Fide is Latin meaning "faith alone". James 2:14-26 clearly states that faith without works is dead. We can't please God if we have faith without works.~~	+
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-	''Dogmatic Origins: Sola Scriptura, doctrines vary even within some denominations; Methodists say they are more concerned with "deeds not creeds". It should be emphasized that rigorous doctrines and dogmas can not be applied to Methodism as a whole.''	+
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-	Methodists focus on their own works rather than God and His True Word. Sola Scriptura is Latin means "scripture alone". A doctrine that is taught in protestantism is considered bibliolotry meaning "bible worship". Should we worship our bibles? No. we are to worship God and Him alone.	+
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-	''Church: "A Methodist is one who has the love of God shed abroad in his life by the Holy Ghost given unto him. One who loves the Lord his God with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his mind, and with all his strength. God is the joy of his heart and the desire of his soul." –John Wesley''	+
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-	~~John Wesley may know we are to Love the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind and strength~~. ~~But what about The Son? He sounds like a Muslim as if God had no son~~. ~~And why doesn't God give us joy?~~	+

	== Theological Beliefs ==		== Theological Beliefs ==

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Basic Facts about Methodism

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	If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.		If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.

-	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. ~~Some may not be perfect. If you can't find~~ a ~~good church, ask God to guide you~~. You can ~~also~~ use Google Maps to find ~~a church near~~ you ~~that stick to the principles of Christ~~.	+	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ and are non-denominational. I recommend a local Church of Christ in your area. You can use Google Maps and find one where you live.

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	* There are dozens of denominations of "Methodist" background and character which differ greatly from each other in theology and practice, from "holiness" churches to "pentecostal" churches to "mainline" Methodist churches.		* There are dozens of denominations of "Methodist" background and character which differ greatly from each other in theology and practice, from "holiness" churches to "pentecostal" churches to "mainline" Methodist churches.
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		+	All Methodists teach the same theology by following the Articles of Religion, Confessions of Faith, General Rules of Methodist Societies, Standard Sermons of John Wesley, and the Explanatory Notes of the New Testament which are not scriptural.

	John Wesley taught four key points fundamental to Methodism:		John Wesley taught four key points fundamental to Methodism:

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	* Methodism is a doctrine of hate. The United Methodist Church is the most known church for hatred, they're even support socialism and the opposition of wealth. Antisemitism is well-known in the Methodist Church because they believe that Jews are the richest and refuse to give up their land. They made campaigns to support a Palestinian state.		* Methodism is a doctrine of hate. The United Methodist Church is the most known church for hatred, they're even support socialism and the opposition of wealth. Antisemitism is well-known in the Methodist Church because they believe that Jews are the richest and refuse to give up their land. They made campaigns to support a Palestinian state.

-	* Methodism does not stick to the Word of God rather than to their own gospels especially with good works, purgatory, and improper baptism.	+	* Methodism does not stick to the Word of God rather than to their own gospels especially with good works, purgatory, and improper baptism (sprinkling and pouring).

	* Methodism is full of false prophets especially with John Wesley.		* Methodism is full of false prophets especially with John Wesley.
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	* While it's important to take the gospel of Jesus to all the world. Methodists will twist God's word into hate. We must remind ourselves to love our neighbors.		* While it's important to take the gospel of Jesus to all the world. Methodists will twist God's word into hate. We must remind ourselves to love our neighbors.

		+	* While it's important to not lay up physical riches (money, materialism, etc.), but to lay up spiritual riches. Methodists will pray to God to cause destruction upon a city, pray for a Palestinian state. This is the most antisemitic doctrine that they ever do. We do not pray like that.
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		+	Being in the Body of Christ is discipleship, and being a Christ-follower.

	If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.		If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.

	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask God to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church near you that stick to the principles of Christ.		There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask God to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church near you that stick to the principles of Christ.

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	* Methodism is a doctrine of hate. The United Methodist Church is the most known church for hatred, they're even support socialism and the opposition of wealth. Antisemitism is well-known in the Methodist Church because they believe that Jews are the richest and refuse to give up their land. They made campaigns to support a Palestinian state.		* Methodism is a doctrine of hate. The United Methodist Church is the most known church for hatred, they're even support socialism and the opposition of wealth. Antisemitism is well-known in the Methodist Church because they believe that Jews are the richest and refuse to give up their land. They made campaigns to support a Palestinian state.
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		+	* Methodism does not stick to the Word of God rather than to their own gospels especially with good works, purgatory, and improper baptism.
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		+	* Methodism is full of false prophets especially with John Wesley.
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		+	* While Methodists churches do ofter out free Breakfast or dinner. Churches should always stick to God's Word, not complimentary food.
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		+	* While it's important to take the gospel of Jesus to all the world. Methodists will twist God's word into hate. We must remind ourselves to love our neighbors.
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	If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.		If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.

	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask God to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church near you that stick to the principles of Christ.		There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask God to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church near you that stick to the principles of Christ.

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Miscellaneous

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	* Methodists stress the need for works after faith, and thus tend to fall closer to Catholic doctrine than most Protestants, although they see works as a result of justification by faith and not as an integral process of justification like Catholics.		* Methodists stress the need for works after faith, and thus tend to fall closer to Catholic doctrine than most Protestants, although they see works as a result of justification by faith and not as an integral process of justification like Catholics.

-	We do not need the stress of works after faith. Works are not justified. Methodists do follow the same practices as the Catholics do such as infant baptism and sprinkling. The word baptism derives from the Greek "Baptizmo" meaning "to immerse", in water baptism. Methodists do offer that option, but the bible clearly states that we are commanded to baptize with water. Water Baptism is a command, not an option.	+	We do not need the stress of works after faith. Works are not justified. Methodists do follow the same practices as the Catholics do such as infant baptism and sprinkling. The word baptism derives from the Greek "Baptizmo" meaning "to immerse", in water baptism. Methodists do offer that option, but the bible clearly states that we are commanded to baptize with water. Water Baptism is a command, not an option. Plus Methodists believe in purgatory as well as Catholics. Purgatory is not scriptural.

	* The evangelical movement (which is very popular in contemporary American Protestant circles) has its roots in the Methodist revival camps of the 19th century. Methodist itinerant preachers traveled the American countryside preaching a fiery message of personal conviction in the salvation of Jesus Christ to the masses. The exhortations stressed the importance of, "trusting in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior" and struck a chord with many American Christians. Evangelicalism stresses an individual's personal relationship with Christ and is thus appealing on an emotional level. Unfortunately, evangelicalism contains the triple errors of assured salvation (no man can loose salvation after committing to Christ), Sola Scriptura (religious doctrines are derived from an individual's interpretation of Scripture), and Sola Fide (man is saved solely by trusting in Christ as the redeemer)		* The evangelical movement (which is very popular in contemporary American Protestant circles) has its roots in the Methodist revival camps of the 19th century. Methodist itinerant preachers traveled the American countryside preaching a fiery message of personal conviction in the salvation of Jesus Christ to the masses. The exhortations stressed the importance of, "trusting in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior" and struck a chord with many American Christians. Evangelicalism stresses an individual's personal relationship with Christ and is thus appealing on an emotional level. Unfortunately, evangelicalism contains the triple errors of assured salvation (no man can loose salvation after committing to Christ), Sola Scriptura (religious doctrines are derived from an individual's interpretation of Scripture), and Sola Fide (man is saved solely by trusting in Christ as the redeemer)
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	Preaching fiery messages of personal conviction to others is self-righteousness. Evangelicalism has no errors. If we don't evangelize the Gospel to the world as Jesus commanded, we are a closed church. We are condemning ourselves.		Preaching fiery messages of personal conviction to others is self-righteousness. Evangelicalism has no errors. If we don't evangelize the Gospel to the world as Jesus commanded, we are a closed church. We are condemning ourselves.

-	Methodism is not based on the principles of Christ, it's based on the principles of man.	+	== Basic Facts about Methodism ==
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		+	* Methodism is not based on the principles of Christ, it's based on the principles of man.
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		+	* Methodism is a doctrine of hate. The United Methodist Church is the most known church for hatred, they're even support socialism and the opposition of wealth. Antisemitism is well-known in the Methodist Church because they believe that Jews are the richest and refuse to give up their land. They made campaigns to support a Palestinian state.

	If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.		If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.

-	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask ~~god~~ to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church that stick to the principles of Christ.	+	There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask God to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church near you that stick to the principles of Christ.

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Religious Doctrines

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	Salvation: Assurance of Salvation, Saved by Grace through Faith, Christian Perfection.		Salvation: Assurance of Salvation, Saved by Grace through Faith, Christian Perfection.

-	Salvation is accepted by repentance through the blood of Jesus.	+	Salvation is accepted by repentance through the blood of Jesus. Christians are not that perfect.

	Scriptures: 66 books, supernaturally inspired, Sola Fide—Methodists insist that reason is needed to read and interpret scripture as well as determine Christian witness.		Scriptures: 66 books, supernaturally inspired, Sola Fide—Methodists insist that reason is needed to read and interpret scripture as well as determine Christian witness.
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	Dogmatic Origins: Sola Scriptura, doctrines vary even within some denominations; Methodists say they are more concerned with "deeds not creeds". It should be emphasized that rigorous doctrines and dogmas can not be applied to Methodism as a whole.		Dogmatic Origins: Sola Scriptura, doctrines vary even within some denominations; Methodists say they are more concerned with "deeds not creeds". It should be emphasized that rigorous doctrines and dogmas can not be applied to Methodism as a whole.

-	Methodists focus on their works rather than God and His True Word.	+	Methodists focus on their own works rather than God and His True Word.

	Church: "A Methodist is one who has the love of God shed abroad in his life by the Holy Ghost given unto him. One who loves the Lord his God with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his mind, and with all his strength. God is the joy of his heart and the desire of his soul." –John Wesley		Church: "A Methodist is one who has the love of God shed abroad in his life by the Holy Ghost given unto him. One who loves the Lord his God with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his mind, and with all his strength. God is the joy of his heart and the desire of his soul." –John Wesley

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== Religious Doctrines ==

God: Trinitarian Father, Son and Holy Spirit

That's one truth we can agree.

Sacraments: Baptism, Communion.

First of all, Communion is not recommended.

Salvation: Assurance of Salvation, Saved by Grace through Faith, Christian Perfection.

Salvation is accepted by repentance through the blood of Jesus.

Scriptures: 66 books, supernaturally inspired, Sola Fide—Methodists insist that reason is needed to read and interpret scripture as well as determine Christian witness.

Only one book is supernaturally inspired is the Word of God, King James-approved, no other book is inspired.

Dogmatic Origins: Sola Scriptura, doctrines vary even within some denominations; Methodists say they are more concerned with "deeds not creeds". It should be emphasized that rigorous doctrines and dogmas can not be applied to Methodism as a whole.

Methodists focus on their works rather than God and His True Word.

Church: "A Methodist is one who has the love of God shed abroad in his life by the Holy Ghost given unto him. One who loves the Lord his God with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his mind, and with all his strength. God is the joy of his heart and the desire of his soul." –John Wesley

John Wesley may know we are to Love the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. But what about The Son? He sounds like a Muslim as if God had no son.

== Theological Beliefs ==

Creation: Genesis account; differences in theology make it hard to know if evolution as a possibility is rejected.

Man’s State: Fallen state due to original sin

Sin: covered up through justification by grace. A person who has been "born again" is capable of attaining Christian perfection through God’s grace. A person can be forgiven of sins by repenting and trusting in Christ for forgiveness and grace.

One who is "born again" cannot attain perfection. God is perfection, mankind is not. There is nowhere in the Book of Genesis that man is created in perfection. Sin cannot be covered by justification, it is only covered by the blood of Jesus through repentance and baptism.

Grace: Grace is offered to all and calls a person to faith, but may be readily rejected by a person. Methodists generally view the sacraments as capable of increasing grace in a person.

There is no mention in the bible about Grace being offered to everyone.

Redemption and Salvation: redemption is a free gift available to all, good works are a sign of a justified person. Methodists believe in "witness of the Spirit" to assure themselves that they have been saved.

Redemption is not a free gift. Good works are not justified. Methodists who believe in the witness of the Holy Spirit is assuring themselves to damnation, not being saved.

Justification: By faith alone. Methodists believe good works, pleasing and acceptable to God in Christ, spring from a true and living faith, for through and by them faith is made evident. Justification (in the classical Protestant sense) is God’s declaration that a person is righteous in lieu of their faith in Jesus as lord and savior.

Good works is not enough to be justified.

Repentance: a gift of grace through the Holy Spirit.

Repentance is to be accepted by the Son, not the Holy Spirit. It is not a gift of grace.

== Sacraments ==

Baptism: Trinitarian baptism. "Baptism is not only a sign of profession and mark of difference whereby Christians are distinguished from others that are not baptized; but it is also a sign of regeneration or the new birth. The Baptism of young children is to be retained in the Church." –Article VI of the United Methodist Church’s The Discipline of The Evangelical United Brethren Church.

Baptism is not a regeneration of a new birth. To be "born again" is to come into repentance, this is the first step. Baptism, the second step, is a covenant, not just as a display, but it's also commitment to the Lord. When you are baptized, you become part of God's Bride.

Communion: Methodists generally believe that Christ is present in a spiritual form in communion and not in a bodily form also. The United Methodist Church’s The Discipline of The Evangelical United Brethren Church confession says "We believe the Lord's Supper is a representation of our redemption, a memorial of the sufferings and death of Christ, and a token of love and union which Christians have with Christ and with one another. Those who rightly, worthily and in faith eat the broken bread and drink the blessed cup partake of the body and blood of Christ in a spiritual manner until he comes." – Article VI

Another Myth. The Lord's Supper is not a representation of our redemption nor a requirement to partake in the body of Christ. Christ is our redeemer. Communion is not recommended.

== Miscellaneous ==

* Methodists generally reject speaking in tongues.

This is one of the biggest lies. The Bible does say about speaking in tongues. When you receive the Holy Spirit by repentance and baptism, you received the gift to speak in tongues in Acts 2.

* There are dozens of denominations of "Methodist" background and character which differ greatly from each other in theology and practice, from "holiness" churches to "pentecostal" churches to "mainline" Methodist churches.

John Wesley taught four key points fundamental to Methodism:

1. Man is free not only to reject salvation but also to accept it (free salvation) by an act of human will.

If we reject salvation, we are damned.

2. All people who are obedient to the Gospel according to the measure of knowledge given them will be saved (universal salvation).

Being obedient to God's Word will not save you. Only the blood of Jesus can.

3. The Holy Spirit assures man of his salvation directly, through an inner "experience" (sure salvation).

The bible doesn't say about the Holy Spirit assuring salvation. Salvation is only accepted by the blood of Jesus through repentance.

4. Christians in this life are capable of Christian perfection and are commanded by God to pursue it (full salvation).

Another lie. We are not perfect. We are not capable of perfection because we are all sinners. God is perfection, not man. God does not command us to pursue perfection, He commands us to obey Him and His Word and believe in His Son who died on the cross for our sins.

* Methodists follow tradition; they say "The Church has learned deep truths over the centuries and we receive these lessons gratefully." Although, they do not hold the fullness of Apostolic Tradition and seem to view it more as a "history" of beliefs that agree with the Scripture and Wesley’s theology.

We are to believe in the Lord's Word and Him alone. Not Wesley's Theology. We are to take up our Cross and follow Him.

* Methodists stress the need for works after faith, and thus tend to fall closer to Catholic doctrine than most Protestants, although they see works as a result of justification by faith and not as an integral process of justification like Catholics.

We do not need the stress of works after faith. Works are not justified. Methodists do follow the same practices as the Catholics do such as infant baptism and sprinkling. The word baptism derives from the Greek "Baptizmo" meaning "to immerse", in water baptism. Methodists do offer that option, but the bible clearly states that we are commanded to baptize with water. Water Baptism is a command, not an option.

* The evangelical movement (which is very popular in contemporary American Protestant circles) has its roots in the Methodist revival camps of the 19th century. Methodist itinerant preachers traveled the American countryside preaching a fiery message of personal conviction in the salvation of Jesus Christ to the masses. The exhortations stressed the importance of, "trusting in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior" and struck a chord with many American Christians. Evangelicalism stresses an individual's personal relationship with Christ and is thus appealing on an emotional level. Unfortunately, evangelicalism contains the triple errors of assured salvation (no man can loose salvation after committing to Christ), Sola Scriptura (religious doctrines are derived from an individual's interpretation of Scripture), and Sola Fide (man is saved solely by trusting in Christ as the redeemer)

Preaching fiery messages of personal conviction to others is self-righteousness. Evangelicalism has no errors. If we don't evangelize the Gospel to the world as Jesus commanded, we are a closed church. We are condemning ourselves.

Methodism is not based on the principles of Christ, it's based on the principles of man.

If you are a Methodist and you're following this doctrine. Leave immediately. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, COME OUT.

There are other churches that teaches the principles of Christ. Some may not be perfect. If you can't find a good church, ask god to guide you. You can also use Google Maps to find a church that stick to the principles of Christ.