User:Mike Rosoft/drafts - Revision history

86.49.6.200: Major rehaul

86.49.6.200 — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:42:21 GMT

Major rehaul

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-	#Some rules may be designated <i>core rules</i>.	+	#Some rules may be designated <i>core rules</i>. A page [[Core rules]] shall be created to keep track of them.
-	#~~When this rule is passed~~, all immutable rules ~~and~~ this rule ~~become core rules~~.	+	#Initially, the set of core rules all includes all immutable rules, this rule, and - upon its passage - Rule 2.
-	~~#Proposals to change the set of core rules may be passed as follows:~~	+	#Whenever a rule becomes immutable, it is added to core rules immediately. It retains that status, even if it is transmuted to become mutable again.
-	##Whenever a rule becomes an immutable ~~rule~~, it ~~becomes a~~ core ~~rule~~ immediately. It retains that status, even if it is transmuted to become mutable again.	+	#Proposals to change the set of core rules may be made on the page [[Talk:Core rules]] (or elsewhere?), and are to be published on the main page.
-	#~~#A proposal~~ may be made to remove an immutable rule from the ~~set of~~ core rules~~. This requires an unanimous vote~~.	+	##An unanimous vote is needed to remove an immutable rule from the core rules.
-	##A ~~proposal may be made~~ to add ~~any number of mutable and/or~~ immutable ~~rules~~ to the ~~set of~~ core rules~~. This requires a supermajority~~.	+	##A simple majority is needed to re-add an immutable rule to the core rules.
-	##A ~~proposal may be made~~ to ~~remove any number of~~ mutable ~~rules from~~ the ~~set of~~ core rules. ~~This requires a~~ supermajority. (Or a simple majority?) ~~<!--#~~#No proposal may ~~both add~~ and ~~remove~~ core rules, ~~or remove both mutable and immutable rules~~.~~-->~~	+	##A supermajority is needed to add a mutable rule to the core rules.
		+	##A supermajority (or a simple majority? or a supermajority during a rules convention, and a simple majority otherwise?) is needed to remove a mutable rule from the core rules.
		+	#A proposal may combine addition and/or removal of multiple rules to/from the core rules; in that case, the rule needing the greatest majority determines the votes needed to pass the proposal.
	#If Rule 2 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.		#If Rule 2 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.

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-	~~#When this rule is passed, it becomes a core rule.~~
	#If a round of play is terminated due to application of the rule [[317]], a Rules Convention will start immediately.		#If a round of play is terminated due to application of the rule [[317]], a Rules Convention will start immediately.
	#If a round of play is terminated for any other reason, a Rules Convention may be started on a proposal made within 24 hours from its conclusion. This requires a supermajority vote. (Remove?)		#If a round of play is terminated for any other reason, a Rules Convention may be started on a proposal made within 24 hours from its conclusion. This requires a supermajority vote. (Remove?)
	#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, all non-core rules are suspended. This takes precedence over any non-core rules.		#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, all non-core rules are suspended. This takes precedence over any non-core rules.
-	#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, rules may be added or removed from Core rules as provided by Rule 1. This takes precedence over any rules.	+	#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, rules may be added or removed from Core rules as provided by Rule 1. This takes precedence over any rules. <!--#Possibly add: As long as this rule is mutable, the above two clauses only apply to mutable rules.-->
-	#Possibly add: As long as this rule is mutable, the above two clauses only apply to mutable rules.	+
	#A proposal to end the Rules Convention may be passed on a simple majority vote. A Rules Convention will end if no changes have been made to the set of core rules and no rule has been passed, amended, repealed, or transmuted for a week.		#A proposal to end the Rules Convention may be passed on a simple majority vote. A Rules Convention will end if no changes have been made to the set of core rules and no rule has been passed, amended, repealed, or transmuted for a week.
	#If Rule 1 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.		#If Rule 1 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.
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	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:		If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:
-	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to clauses that modify that rule, nor to references to ~~a one-time~~ event involving that rule that has taken place before or at that time.	+	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to clauses that modify that rule, nor to references to an event involving that rule that has taken place before or at that time.
-	#Upon passage of any proposal that was up for debate or voting at the time of change, all references to the rule's old number in it shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to references to ~~a one-time~~ event involving that rule that has taken place before or at the time of passage.	+	#Upon passage of any proposal that was up for debate or voting at the time of change, all references to the rule's old number in it shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to references to an event involving that rule that has taken place before or at the time of passage.

Mike Rosoft: Preposition

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:08:48 GMT

Preposition

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	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:		If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:
	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to clauses that modify that rule, nor to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at that time.		#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to clauses that modify that rule, nor to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at that time.
-	#Upon passage of any proposal that was up to debate or voting at the time of change, all references to the rule's old number in it shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at the time of passage.	+	#Upon passage of any proposal that was up for debate or voting at the time of change, all references to the rule's old number in it shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at the time of passage.

Mike Rosoft: Rephrasing

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:03:46 GMT

Rephrasing

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	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:		If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:
-	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number~~, with the exceptions of~~ clauses that modify that rule, ~~and~~ references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time~~; and~~	+	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to clauses that modify that rule, nor to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at that time.
-	#~~All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being~~ up ~~for~~ debate or voting at ~~that~~ time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.	+	#Upon passage of any proposal that was up to debate or voting at the time of change, all references to the rule's old number in it shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number. This does not apply to references to a one-time event involving that rule that has taken place before or at the time of passage.
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-	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended, transmuted, or repealed and re-enacted after the proposal of rule A, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.
-	~~#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.~~
-	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.
-	~~-->~~

Mike Rosoft: Format

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:40:59 GMT

Format

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	Please comment on these drafts on the [[User talk:Mike Rosoft/drafts\|talk page]].		Please comment on these drafts on the [[User talk:Mike Rosoft/drafts\|talk page]].
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	==Core rules and Rules convention==		==Core rules and Rules convention==
	This is a draft of a rule intended to address the same problem as the failed proposal [[341]].		This is a draft of a rule intended to address the same problem as the failed proposal [[341]].
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	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern of [[Talk:348]].		Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern of [[Talk:348]].

-	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted ~~after being repealed,~~	+	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted:
	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number, with the exceptions of clauses that modify that rule, and references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time; and		#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number, with the exceptions of clauses that modify that rule, and references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time; and
	#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.		#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.
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	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.		#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.
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Mike Rosoft: Extra line breaks

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:38:11 GMT

Extra line breaks

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	Of course, the wording needs to be refined, the proper procedures described, etc.		Of course, the wording needs to be refined, the proper procedures described, etc.
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-	~~==Points for votes change==~~
-	~~Proposal to prevent some players from abusing the voting rules to gain points:~~
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-	~~Rule [[333]] is amended to read, in entirety:~~
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-	~~1. This rule applies only to votes for amendments to the Ruleset.<br>~~
-	~~1.1. This rule does not apply to any point changes related to Rule 322.<br>~~
-	~~2. The players who vote against against winning proposals shall receive 5 (positive) points each, as long as at least three players have voted against or abstained on the proposal.<br>~~
-	~~2.1. No player choosing to 'abstain' from a vote shall be awarded additional points for that vote.<br>~~
-	~~3. In circumstances when the player who proposed the rule change in question votes against it, they shall receive no additional points.~~
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	==Update of references==		==Update of references==
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	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.		#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.
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Mike Rosoft: Minor rephrasing

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:36:34 GMT

Minor rephrasing

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	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern of [[Talk:348]].		Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern of [[Talk:348]].

-	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or ~~repealed and~~ re-enacted,	+	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or re-enacted after being repealed,
	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number, with the exceptions of clauses that modify that rule, and references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time; and		#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number, with the exceptions of clauses that modify that rule, and references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time; and
	#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.		#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.

Mike Rosoft: Format

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:20:41 GMT

Format

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	#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.		#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.

-	<!-- Old draft	+	<!--
-	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended, transmuted, or repealed and re-enacted after the proposal of rule A ~~<!--(but not as the only result of its passing)-->~~, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.	+	Old draft
		+	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended, transmuted, or repealed and re-enacted after the proposal of rule A, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.
	#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.		#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.
	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.		#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.
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Mike Rosoft: Simplification

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:19:57 GMT

Simplification

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	==Update of references==		==Update of references==
-	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern	+	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern of [[Talk:348]].

-	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended or transmuted ~~after~~, but not as a result of passing~~, the proposal of rule A~~, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.	+	If a rule has been amended, transmuted, or repealed and re-enacted,
		+	#All references to its old number in the ruleset existing at the time of change shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number, with the exceptions of clauses that modify that rule, and references to a one-time event that has taken place before or at that time; and
		+	#All references to its old number in the rulechange proposals being up for debate or voting at that time shall be interpreted as if they had referred to its new number.
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		+	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended, transmuted, or repealed and re-enacted after the proposal of rule A <!--(but not as the only result of its passing)-->, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.
	#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.		#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.
	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.		#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.
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Mike Rosoft: Some changes

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:54:40 GMT

Some changes

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	Please comment on these drafts on the [[User talk:Mike Rosoft/drafts\|talk page]].		Please comment on these drafts on the [[User talk:Mike Rosoft/drafts\|talk page]].
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		+	==Core rules and Rules convention==
	This is a draft of a rule intended to address the same problem as the failed proposal [[341]].		This is a draft of a rule intended to address the same problem as the failed proposal [[341]].

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	#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, all non-core rules are suspended. This takes precedence over any non-core rules.		#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, all non-core rules are suspended. This takes precedence over any non-core rules.
	#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, rules may be added or removed from Core rules as provided by Rule 1. This takes precedence over any rules.		#As long as a Rules Convention is in progress, rules may be added or removed from Core rules as provided by Rule 1. This takes precedence over any rules.
		+	#Possibly add: As long as this rule is mutable, the above two clauses only apply to mutable rules.
	#A proposal to end the Rules Convention may be passed on a simple majority vote. A Rules Convention will end if no changes have been made to the set of core rules and no rule has been passed, amended, repealed, or transmuted for a week.		#A proposal to end the Rules Convention may be passed on a simple majority vote. A Rules Convention will end if no changes have been made to the set of core rules and no rule has been passed, amended, repealed, or transmuted for a week.
	#If Rule 1 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.		#If Rule 1 fails to pass, this rule is repealed.
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	Of course, the wording needs to be refined, the proper procedures described, etc.		Of course, the wording needs to be refined, the proper procedures described, etc.
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		+	==Points for votes change==
	Proposal to prevent some players from abusing the voting rules to gain points:		Proposal to prevent some players from abusing the voting rules to gain points:

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	1. This rule applies only to votes for amendments to the Ruleset.<br>		1. This rule applies only to votes for amendments to the Ruleset.<br>
	1.1. This rule does not apply to any point changes related to Rule 322.<br>		1.1. This rule does not apply to any point changes related to Rule 322.<br>
-	2. The players who vote against against winning proposals shall receive 5 (positive) points each, as long as at least ~~two~~ players voted against the proposal.<br>	+	2. The players who vote against against winning proposals shall receive 5 (positive) points each, as long as at least three players have voted against or abstained on the proposal.<br>
	2.1. No player choosing to 'abstain' from a vote shall be awarded additional points for that vote.<br>		2.1. No player choosing to 'abstain' from a vote shall be awarded additional points for that vote.<br>
	3. In circumstances when the player who proposed the rule change in question votes against it, they shall receive no additional points.		3. In circumstances when the player who proposed the rule change in question votes against it, they shall receive no additional points.
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-	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule)	+	==Update of references==
		+	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule), and also the concern

-	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended or transmuted after the proposal of rule A, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred ~~to its~~ new number.	+	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended or transmuted after, but not as a result of passing, the proposal of rule A, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred the new number of rule B.
	#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.		#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.
		+	#If rule A refer to a one-time event involving rule B, and the event has taken place before or at the time of amendment or transmutation of rule B, then this rule does not apply with respect to the reference.

Mike Rosoft: Another proposal

Mike Rosoft — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:29:39 GMT

Another proposal

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	Rule [[333]] is amended to read, in entirety:		Rule [[333]] is amended to read, in entirety:

-	1. This rule applies only to votes for amendments to the Ruleset.	+	1. This rule applies only to votes for amendments to the Ruleset.<br>
-	1.1. This rule does not apply to any point changes related to Rule 322.	+	1.1. This rule does not apply to any point changes related to Rule 322.<br>
-	2. The players who vote against against winning proposals shall receive 5 (positive) points each, as long as at least two players voted against the proposal.	+	2. The players who vote against against winning proposals shall receive 5 (positive) points each, as long as at least two players voted against the proposal.<br>
-	2.1. No player choosing to 'abstain' from a vote shall be awarded additional points for that vote.	+	2.1. No player choosing to 'abstain' from a vote shall be awarded additional points for that vote.<br>
	3. In circumstances when the player who proposed the rule change in question votes against it, they shall receive no additional points.		3. In circumstances when the player who proposed the rule change in question votes against it, they shall receive no additional points.
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-	~~<!--~~Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule)	+	Proposal to address problem mentioned on [[Game-direction]] (rule referencing an amended or transmuted rule)

-	Should a situation occur that	+	#Should a situation occur that rule A refers to rule B by its number, and rule B was amended or transmuted after the proposal of rule A, then rule A shall be interpreted as if it had referred to its new number.
-	*Rule A refers to rule B by its number;	+	#As long as the reference is not changed, it shall retain its meaning even after rule A itself is amended or transmuted.
-	*And rule B ~~has been~~ amended to ~~-->~~	+