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User talk:Durzan

2019-06-17T02:10:53Z

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==Archived Messages==

I have decided to put older messages and messages not likely to get updated in archive pages. That way I can stay ahead of additional clutter that may or may not be coming up soon
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
<br>'''Archives:'''
*[[User talk:Durzan/Archive1|Archive 1]]

==Main Page==

You've certainly put a good deal of effort into the new main page, and the main page did need to be de-cluttered. I am a bit hesitant about the idea of completely removing stories from the main page, though. We've tried that in the past and RobKohr requested we put a sampling of stories back. Those story links, especially the adult story links, are what drives traffic on the site. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 12:24, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I like the latest iteration. You've done a great job it! --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 20:14, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

==Collaboration==
i appreciate the thought, but I do have projects of my own to work on when I find the time to do more posting here. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 21:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

You know, you could have asked before you did that. I'm not too annoyed but could you please ask before you rearrange my- or anybody else's- discussion page?

As for "Tales of Illnora", I'm willing to help. But do you have a theme? A mood? A genre? What's the central concept for the story? How many branching points do you have in mind?

I have to warn you, I'm a chronic procrastinator and I have college so I'll probably be very inconsistent with my contributions.

-[[User:Fredhot16|Fredhot]], March-1-2019.

I'm not a good enough writer to do a collaboration work, regrettably. I can barely get coherence on pages which are entirely my own ideas. -- [[User:Teejay|Teejay]]

Would it be too much trouble for you to put a page on your story for spitballing ideas for everybody working on it to see?

---Fredhot, March-3-2019.

I'll go for A and B.

---Fredhot, March-3-2019

Here is a tome that should provide you with plenty of ideas for your current story.

[thetrove.net/Books/GURPS%20Classic/Dragons.pdf
]
---Fredhot, March-3-2019.

While I'm at it, take a look at the tomes here. Generic Universal Roleplaying System (GURPS) tends to cover a wide variety of genres so if you're looking for ideas, you should find plenty here.

[https:thetrove.net/Books/GURPS%20Classic]

---Fredhot, March-4-2019.

Hey, you're back. Got any new ideas brewing in your head?

---Fredhot, April-30-2019.

Perhaps we could start with the rest of the dragon masters, giving them introductions, and then brainstorm on what the first mission for each dragon master will be?

---Fredhot, May-06-2019.

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With the small amount of time I have, I have to put it where the inspiration or motivation is highest. The one Kirsten scene has to do for a while, I think. Unless - maybe, there is something with Will/Debra. We'll see.

-[[User:Minnie May Hopkins]] March 10th 2019

Well, it seems like you're following in my footsteps. I joined CYOS with no idea what I was doing, diving headfirst into writing. Why not come back? Although I do have to warn you... I haven't been very active. --[[User:Magikarp7297|Magikarp7297, the Wild Card]] 23:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

==Upaging==
You may need to up the age of certain characters in your writing. Underage sex is no longer allowable on this site. A character barely out of elementary school is off limits. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 18:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

An immature, yet legal age character is fine. I've done a lot of up-aging through Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage, which are huge stories, and i still keep finding more that I've missed. Some of the characters now seem ridiculously immature for their stated age, but it is what it is. RobKohr sprung the new regulations on the site very abruptly, but he's also right to be concerned about possible legal ramifications. The righteous right-wingers have gone after any perceived perversions with a vengeance, acting as if thought is equivalent to deed. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 20:13, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Apologies ==

Sorry for the mixup my guy. A bit of a kneejerk reaction on my part, I'll admit. I'll be sure to let you know if I'll be up for helping with some retouching/editing of other stories. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 02:10, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

2019-06-16T18:16:51Z

TheWatcher: Undo revision 344841 by TheWatcher (Talk)

----Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!

*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive1]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive2]]
*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]]
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*[[User talk:Platypus/Archive6]]
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== Archives ==

@Platypus... I was about to leave you a message about something else when I noticed that you have a tendency to archive discussions on this page approximately once per year at around this time. Your conversation tab was getting pretty big and cluttered here, so I created a 7th archive to stuff everything into and placed all the conversations that already haven't been archived into there. Also created an 8th archive for you to use in the future! Hope it helps! --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

'''Additional note:''' You might also want to ask everyone to put their signature and date whenever they post, and to create a new section whenever they are starting a new topic or discussion with you (commenting on a different discussion can be done under a previous section). It will help keep things organized here, and since you are the only active admin, it is essential. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Adult Section and Organization ==

Hey Platypus, I've been working on creating categories to help organize stuff better. Could you do me a favor and change the Adult Section's category from System Pages to [[:Category:Story Ratings]]? That way its classified in with the other Story Rating categories. This was what I was meaning to ask you about before I got side tracked.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: [[Main Page (2019)]] ==

Hey Platypus, I just finished the initial rough draft for the new Main Page (linked in the heading title). The idea is to clean it up a bit and provide a bit more structure by cutting out the links and tables that show off the stories and move them to their own pages. At the same time, I put in spaces and placeholders for additional information that new users would need to know and understand before actively starting or editing pages here. What do you think? Any suggestions? Feel free to edit and add onto it, as while I started the darn thing, I dunno that I can finish it. I am not that good with advanced formatting. Put your feedback on the discussion page, as it will be easier for me to find.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 07:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Platypus, I just finished setting up the necessary sub-pages for the new main page design. Still probably needs some work, but right now, its functional (apart from the lack of content in the Etiquette section -- I need to talk with you and others about what should go in that spot). Could you do me a favor and look it over when you have the time to do so? If everything is good, I'll transfer the contents of the page to the main page as soon as I get a green light from you, otherwise I will continue to update the rough draft page according to what you deem needs to be improved.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 22:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, I updated the new Main Page draft. Re-added in the sample stories, but it should look a bit nicer. Updated some of the story tag templates with different colors, and added the {{Abandoned}} tag template. Also included notes on what the {{Private}}, {{Public}}, {{DNE}}, and {{Abandoned}} tags mean under the Etiquette section. May need to work on the wording a bit.

What do you think so far? Is there anything else that you think needs to be changed or improved upon before I update the main page?
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Since you like the current version and you didn't note anything that needs to be changed, I'll go ahead and transfer the changes to the Main Page.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Re: Clarification on the Rules ==

I finally got around to adding the rules to the [[Main Page (2019)]], and although the rules are fairly simple in nature, they could use some clarification and/or some rewording for newer people.
Rule 1 in particular could use some clarification, as from what I've been able to tell, there are still plenty of remnants of under-age sex in the various adult stories that I've come across (including Rampage).

Since I am familar with the context of the creation of Rule 1 (it came about in part because of rampant stories involving pedophillia, and to a lesser extent because of the rampant use of underage sex in general), it is worth noting that the actual definition of Pedophillia is defined as a '''having a sexual attraction for ''prepubescent'' minors''', which is generally legally interpreted as minors being 13 years of age or younger... though that is not strictl''Italic text''y speaking accurate either. Do note that it is ''not'' a general term for being attracted or having sex with a minor in general. Technically, there are at least 3 different terms that describe having sex or being attracted to a minor: Pedophillia (Attraction to prepubescent minors), Hebephilia (Attraction to pubescent minors in early adolescence, typically between the ages of 11 & 14), and Ephebophilia (attraction to adolescences between the ages of around 15 to 19). Further more, the age of sexual consent varies from state to state and country to country, going as low as the age of 14.

''Side Note:'' While I am not saying the rule ''should'' be changed, but I feel like it would be beneficial to state things a bit more clearly on exactly where the line is drawn... especially considering that there are still several stories on the wiki that portray underage sex, and that change regarding it could be beneficial if implemented with caution and prudence. The wording of a rule should reflect the actual enforcement that comes along with it, and prudence should be factored in as well. With regards to rule 1, it is worth asking if an outright ban is appropriate verses a soft ban where you judge the severity of the situation on a case by case basis.Not to mention the cases where a character's exact age isn't stated but is implied. A line does need to be drawn somewhere, and while I do think the current line is a good place, I also realize that it is somewhat restrictive in what stories you can tell. Sometimes a story calls for a character to be underage in order for it to work properly, and in such instances what then? Teenage protagonists and victims are a common trope, that while it should be used sparingly, it should still be used at times when it is appropriate and necessary.

Reaffirmation: I do find pedophillia and manipulation of minors for sexual purposes to be abhorrent in thought and practice, and when it comes to stories, I draw the line at incredibly graphic descriptions of child abuse, having sex with prepubescent children, and other such issues. A good rule of thumb for me is If the characters involved they are 15 or older, I can tolerate it, but I intellectually disapprove and find it somewhat distasteful; 13 or younger is despicable and I will turn away and/or report; and if its incredibly violent and graphic above and beyond the usual stuff, I will also report, etc.

Bottom line: I could use clarification regarding Rule 1, for the purposes of updating the Main Page.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 09:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for your quick response, Platypus. Most of what you said is basically stuff I already guessed at, but the way you put it was as straight forward and as clear as it could be presented. When looking at the rule itself, as well as the context surrounding it, I must say that there is still some serious potential for confusion. That means that we are still left with the problem of interpretation and enforcement of Robkohr's request as well as his intent. Fortunately, interpretation of literature is one of my strengths (I am majoring in English after all, and interpreting and understanding texts is a big part of what I've been taught), so I can give some possible insight into this.

First off, I must reiterate that the confusion stems from the use of the term "Pedophillia" being used interchangeably with the term "underage sex" when the two are not actually the same thing. Pedophellia is a form of underage sex, but not all underage sex is necessarily Pedophillia. Legally speaking (at least in the US) when talking about underage sex, Pedophillia is associated with having sex with someone who is ''13 years or younger.'' IE, Pedophillia within that context is dealing with a ''specific form'' of having sex with a minor.

Second, Robkohr's is currently (or at least was), as far as I can tell, the systemop for the '''entire editthis.info service''' and NOT specifically the admin/systemop for this specific wiki. To reinforce this point, he specifically said "'''I don't monitor the content on the site'''" when he initially brought it up. IE, its not usually his job to monitor and deal with the concerns and day to day issues of a specific wiki. He only got involved because someone specifically told him about it, AND after doing some research came to the conclusion that allowing such content was in a '''legally grey area at best''' that could cause problems for the hosting website as a whole. If he says something or makes a request, it falls to the wiki admins (IE. you) to interpret and enforce them on each of the wikis. Effectively, '''RobKohr is the regional manager, while you are the store manager'''. In other words, the specific rules and policy of the wiki are effectively under your area of authority... meaning that you can interpret, enforce, and change the rules and policies (at least within reasonable confines). If new information is presented on the situation, then logically speaking, you have the power to adjust the policy of the wiki to reflect the new information.

Third and most importantly, when looking at the wording and content of Robkohr's original mandate, it becomes clear that his initial and primary intent was to deal specifically with pedophillia (due to the fact that he specifically filtered a story that was expressly about a person deliberately having rampant sex with 10-year-olds). Based on the contextual evidence that he put a filter in over the story that he censored, we can ''reasonably conclude that at least some of the contents of that story is where he initially drew the line at''. So that means that there is a hard line ban on content that approaches that level of explicitness in the area of underage sex. Since pedophillia is expressly defined as being attracted to prepubescent (IE children who haven't begun the biological process of becoming sexually mature yet; the upper cutoff point for still being prepubescent is age 13), that means that the hard ban on underage sex is '''at a bare minimum''' restricting the '''explicit portrayal of sex with dealing with children who are 13 years old or younger'''. Such has to be his intent, judging by the context.

The problem is, of course, when he says "'''If''' you find any content '''explicitly related''' to sex with a minor, '''please''' remove it ''or edit'' it." Note the points that I emphasized. He phrased it as a conditional request, and didn't clarify. He didn't say what to edit it to, didn't define what he meant when he said "explicitly related" meant, and didn't clarify if he was referring to underage sex as being under the age of consent, under the age where they would have certainly started puberty, and so forth. Is he talking about underage sex in general (which is what it is assumed to mean, and thus that became the current interpretation enforced by Rule 1)? If so, are cases of consensual sex between two minors allowed? These are just some of the questions that you should be asking us and yourself platypus.

He gave a request and you are tasked with interpreting and enforcing it since he didn't specify (thats your perogative, especially since it is fairly apparent that he's not exactly reliable when it comes to trying to contact him). You can gleen from the context of his earlier sentences that he was probably targeting some specific aspects of the story, but that isn't quite certain. In other words, what I am saying is that as the acting admin, YOU need to refine and clarify the meaning of rule 1. Heck you can even relax its restrictions if you want to. There's plenty of wiggle room for it.

Perhaps this should be brought up for further discussion in the General Discussion? But regardless of what you decide, I will uphold those rules, and see to it that the updated main page clearly has those specifications lined out.

--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 20:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Misnamed Page ==

Hey Platypus, I accidentally created a page with the wrong name. Could you delete it? The page [[Popular]] was supposed to be called Popular Stories.

== Collaboration on [[Tales of Illnora]]? ==

Hey Platypus,

I was wondering if you would be willing to collaborate with me (and anyone else who wants to) on a a new mega-story I started a few days ago. Right now my mind is a bit of a mess on where I want to take the various potential plot threads, how to structure the pages I've written already, the rules for public editing, and so forth.

Are you up for it? I haven't heard back from you.
--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 16:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Thanks for the tip. ==

Sorry for the trouble. Any further advice you would give to a new poster? I don't anticipate I'll be posting much, but I'd like to avoid stepping on toes when I do. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 07:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

== Also... ==

Figured you might want to be alerted to the fact that [[User:Durzan|Durzan]] is posting explicit anal sex with a minor, as in a '''fifth-grader'''. [[TSRM- Take Bayley's shorts off?]] for reference. I was under the impression that underage sex was strictly forbidden on this site? [[Main_Page_(2019)#The_Rules|This]] is what gives me the impression. I've saved a couple snapshots of pages, in case there's an attempt to delete them after the fact. --[[User:TheWatcher|TheWatcher]] 18:07, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Platypus

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User talk:Platypus

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User talk:Platypus

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User talk:Platypus

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User talk:TheWatcher

2019-06-16T07:12:54Z

TheWatcher:

If you're going to post in one of my stories, be aware that all choices ''must'' be choices your character can make. Your character cannot choose whether or not someone else flushes her. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 06:33, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

User talk:TheWatcher

2019-06-16T07:12:12Z

TheWatcher: /* test */ new section

The Sewers

2019-06-15T22:06:27Z

TheWatcher:

A rather smelly, yet necessary, place, where semi-solid, semi-liquid waste flows from the city's toilets to the sewage treatment plant. Home to rats and other vermin.

Entry Points:
* [[Climb down the ladder into the sewers]]
* [[Drop the babe down the open manhole]]
* [[Open the green trapdoor and jump]]
* [[The man flushes again]]

Press your browser’s back button to return to the story.
[[Category:Smutty Sex Romp Locations|Sewers]]

Let the man flush you down the toilet

2019-06-15T21:51:36Z

TheWatcher: Created page with 'When you only stare back at the man defiantly, your legs remaining tightly closed, he frowns, his brow furrowing. That's fine, he can be as disappointed as he wants; you're not a…'

When you only stare back at the man defiantly, your legs remaining tightly closed, he frowns, his brow furrowing. That's fine, he can be as disappointed as he wants; you're not afraid of a silly swirly!

"Disappointed, baby," the man says, shaking his head, "but hey, if that's how you wanna play it..." He seizes you by both shoulders and easily lifts you three feet off the ground - your head bumps painfully into the ceiling of the Port-o-John. Before you can react, he shoves you back down into the toilet, feet-first. Your legs are forced together as they're jammed down into the drain, snaking along the S-bend. The man lets go of you, and you look down to see that you've been lodged firmly inside the toilet up to your thighs. Wait... He meant he was '''literally''' going to flush you down the toilet?!

As if to answer your question, the man, looking satisfied, reaches over next to you and casually pulls the toilet's handle. Inexplicably the toilet roars to life, and you feel an immense chill as water splashes against your fishnet-clad thighs. As if that weren't strange enough, you begin to slowly turn with the spiraling current of the water, slowly at first, but gradually gathering speed.

The man watches, arms crossed, as you begin sinking into the toilet. Your thighs are consumed inch by inch by the porcelain fixture, until your large butt presses firmly against the smooth porcelain. You spin in place for a few moments, and you attempt to take the opportunity to push down on the rim of the bowl in an effort to save yourself. The thing is slick with water, unfortunately, and your hands slip right off. This also causes enough of a stir for your ass to pop through the drain and resume your descent into the pipes. Your arms are pinned at your sides now by the tight circumference of the bowl, leaving you helpless to even fight the powerful current of the flush.

The flush finally comes to a finish with a strong glugging sound, leaving you completely stuck in the toilet, only the top half of you visible above the bowl.

You can only watch as:
*[[The man flushes again]]
*[[The man 'makes use' of your upper half]]
*[[The man offers you a chance to save yourself]]
{{SexRompStatus|Location=''Inside [[The Port-o-John]]''|Health=Horny & Female|MP=0|Level=2}}
[[Category: Smutty Sex Romp]]

End up back where you started

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TheWatcher:

Before long you're jettisoned out the pipe you'd originally squeezed yourself into, considerably dirtier and worse for wear, though the water from the flush did manage to clean the refuse from your face. You're once again faced with the choice of four pipes and the hatch, though you're not sure if you want re-experience being flushed down the toilet just yet.

Do you:
*[[Slide into smaller pipe A]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe B]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe C]]
*[[Climb back into pipe D]]
*[[Try the hatch]]
*[[Something different]]
[[Category:The Short But True Story of The Secret Passage]]

End up back where you started

2019-06-15T21:02:37Z

TheWatcher:

Before long you're jettisoned out the pipe you'd originally squeezed yourself into, considerably dirtier and worse for wear, though the water from the flush did manage to clean the refuse from your face. You're once again faced with the choice of four pipes and the hatch, though you're not sure if you want re-experience being flushed down the toilet just yet.

Do you:
*[[Slide into smaller pipe A]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe B]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe C]]
*[[Climb back into pipe D]]
*[[Try the hatch]]
*[[Something dofferent]]
[[Category:The Short But True Story of The Secret Passage]]

End up back where you started

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TheWatcher: Created page with 'Before long you're jettisoned out the pipe you'd originally squeezed yourself into, considerably dirtier and worse for wear, though the water from the flush did manage to clean t…'

Before long you're jettisoned out the pipe you'd originally squeezed yourself into, considerably dirtier and worse for wear, though the water from the flush did manage to clean the refuse from your face. You're once again faced with the choice of four pipes and the hatch, though you're not sure if you want re-experience being flushed down the toilet just yet.

Do you:
*[[Slide into smaller pipe A]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe B]]
*[[Slide into smaller pipe C]]
*[[Climb back into pipe D]]
*[[Try the hatch]]
*[[Something else]]
[[Category:The Short But True Story of The Secret Passage]]

Beg them for water

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TheWatcher: Created page with '"No, please... I need water! Just give me some water!" Through the ring of the toilet seat, you can see the girls exchange glances before looking back down at you. "I know how …'

"No, please... I need water! Just give me some water!"

Through the ring of the toilet seat, you can see the girls exchange glances before looking back down at you.

"I know how to get you some water," Valerie says, her lips curling into a mischievous grin. Mindy looks to her friend, then back down at you. "I can get a cup and fill it with the sink... hold on." She begins to pull away, before she is stopped by Valerie.

"I can get him his water even faster." Valerie says, before reaching over to the toilet and pulling the handle down with authority. The toilet makes a loud '''''FLOOSH''''', deafening to you since you're inside the bowl. All around your head, water begins streaming down the sides of the white porcelain in a spiral. "W-wait!" You cry, as if it makes a difference now.

"Valerie!" Mindy exclaims, looking vilified. She grasps her friend's arm, before looking back down into the toilet, at you. At this point the toilet has finished filling and the spiraling whirlpool forms in earnest, and you begin to slowly spin with the current.

"Relax. He's just a pervert; this is what he deserves. He shoved his finger up your ass! You wanna help him after that? Fuck him, let him get flushed."

"Well... I guess you're right... Bye, mister."

You swirl around and around, faster and faster, growing dizzy as your head slowly sinks further and further down into the toilet. Looking up, the last thing you see before you're sucked down the drain is the spinning image of the two girls staring down at you, with Mindy half-heartedly waving goodbye and Valerie sticking her tongue out at you.

The water rushes around and past you as you're rocketed through the pipes.

Do you:
*[[End up back where you started]]
*[[Surface in another toilet somewhere]]
*[[End up dispensed out of a different plumbing appliance]]
*[[Get dumped into a different part of the sewer]]
[[Category:The Short But True Story of The Secret Passage]]